've learned at the worst possible time that 88 rear LCA urethane bushings all but don't exist. Can't find a single way of acquiring them that won't take 3+ weeks. (finding them quicker is also an acceptable solution)

I don't have time to wait as the car is off the ground in a garage that's not mine. I have bushings for an 89-91 that are a few mm too thick to fit down in the arm, though they do fit the eyeball strut. Has anyone made these fit before? The inner metal sleve wouldn't be hard to grind down, but the bushing seems more complicated.

Edit: For anyone searching this, the part number for the bushings is 16.3111, and Suspension Restoration has them in stock.


Modified by Deo at 9:45 PM 9/22/2005

 

have pics of what you are talking about? if they don't exists how do you have them? if it is what i think it is, your going to have to press fit them in.

 

I have bushing for an 89-91 arm, not 88.

The 88 LCAs are sort of inverted from the 89-91s, mounting the strut inside rather than out. The bushings I have fit the strut itself, but they're too thick to drop down into the LCA. I'm not sure if it's safe to shave the bushing/sleve down to fit, nor do I even know how to do it with any real precision.

 

yes, I know the difference between the two. You have the bushing that is suppost to go into the lca of the 89 where the mounting point is. In all honesty, I would just swap LCA's and rear shocks. Or just don't put in the bushings. Shaving down the metal bushing on the 88 style LCA's will cause the LCA to brake. Untill you get money or something, don't plan on putting in th bushing.

 

i would not bother replacing the bushing on the 88 rear shock with urethane.

dont stress over it.

 

eh, the stress comes from the car being apart already and the old bushings gone. I managed to find a place that will take only about a week to get them to me :/

On the note of swaping to 89-91 arm/struts (which i considered), would that eliminate the passive rear steering of the 88?


Modified by Deo at 6:39 PM 9/22/2005

 

hahaha. oh well. buy a new one from honda.

http://www.slhondaparts.com/br...3-013

as for passive steering, no, its not LCA dependent. its part of the suspension geometry thats different on the chassis at the front toe link, which you cant change (unless you welded stuff.)

more reading (and pics if you dont believe me). https://honda-tech.com/zerothread?id=1268359

 

That was a really nice thread, alot of good answers. That ends a few years of misconception on that matter. I hope your just as right about that whole camber not causing wear thing, I'm about to bank a set of tires on it.

You might want to change that thread to reflect the bushing differance.

 

why dont you get a set of bushing for the itr i thought they had the same control arm? im pretty sure mugen makes those bushings. call king. also you can just buy a new set of function 7 control arms complete with poly bushings

 

well, i dunno. although i make the point that the actual relative location of the bushing is the same, i think it should be obvious that the bushing itself is going to be different, since its no longer in the arm anymore. i guess its not obvious for everyone, but still, hardly worth mentioning.

im dead serious about the camber issue. you dont have to worry about it if you know your alignment is not toed in. it can be dead straight or toed out, and its even better if it is toed out a bit, and you wont have tire wear issues, at any reasonable drop height and negative camber.

 

I'm not so sure about this. I have an 88hf and 89 si accessable to me. I look some measurements and it was the exact same as each other. I don't know if he actually measured this or not but I had a different opinion about the subject. When I get time, I'll take the measurements again. Also another thing to note is the fact that the 88 and 89 are different.




If you look at the top pic, the rear shock mount is indeed in a slightly different place. Look hard. And you can't argue that they are the same because if you look on the end points of the control arms, both bolts go into each hole. so the change is very slightly but i can tell there is a difference in placement of the rear shock mount.

I'm tryin to find the topic but am not having luck.

Okay, here it is, found it.

http://www.superhonda.com/foru...pp=15


Modified by UltimX at 11:02 PM 9/22/2005

 

ultimx, yeah, the position of the shock is slightly off mostly in the vertical. but consider the angle of the shock relative to the control arm. its at an angle. imagine the shock in place, the difference is in line with the angle the shock would be. its just the difference in the shock mounting. remember, the shocks are different as well.

besides, the position of the shock is not going to change anything other than the motion ratio. and whatever difference there might be is not going to change anything significantly. it certainly wouldnt have anything to do with "passive steering".

if you have both and 88 and 89 available, why not try switching the control arms yourself and see if theres a difference. i have, and can say theres no difference, so have others.

 

I don't. Thats just the problem. Or I would. I'm still positive that the toe adjustment on the chassis is still the same. I'll get pics when i find a camera.