700+HP B-Series.....What fuel system?

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Old Sep 20, 2005 | 07:26 AM
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My setup will put between 650-700hp to the wheels with tuning, what do you guys suggest for the fuel system (pump, regulator, fuel rail, etc)

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Old Sep 20, 2005 | 07:50 AM
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We run the Fast-Turbo fuel system which uses a really nice bosch pump on Matt Vanwie's car.. we have made over 700 and almost 600 tq
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Old Sep 20, 2005 | 09:58 AM
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What model number Bosch pump is that?
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Old Sep 20, 2005 | 10:33 AM
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Who is going to tune it?
With that power you need at least a new feed line, 1600cc injectors, and a strong inline pump.
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Old Sep 20, 2005 | 10:37 AM
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AFC hack lol get some 2400cc and lean em out

hahaahaha jk

why not

pump your going to need a major inline
fuel rail they are all good, GE, Benen, AEM
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Old Sep 20, 2005 | 10:37 AM
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not trying to sound like a smart *** but how are you going to build a 600+hp car and not know what fuel set up you should be running?
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Old Sep 20, 2005 | 10:42 AM
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everything else is finished, but I need to upgrade the fuel system, and I have heard many different opinions...from Aeromotive to Weldon to Bosch. So if you don't have anything to truly contribute to this, please don'e waste yours and my time.

Thanks

I have 1000cc Injectors and Joe at Tempest Racing will be tuning it.

I know the type of setup I need, all I want it input on the different brands and options in brands that are out there.
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Old Sep 20, 2005 | 10:50 AM
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700+hp on 1000cc injectors is asking for trouble...
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Old Sep 20, 2005 | 10:52 AM
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The injectors can be upgraded, all I want is opinions on brands of fuel system components.

I just want to have the fuel system installed so that when I go bigger turbo and bigger injectors, I have one less thing to worry about.
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Old Sep 20, 2005 | 11:14 AM
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The bosch pump you want is a 044 model.
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Old Sep 20, 2005 | 11:15 AM
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Ive run into the same problem recently trying to figure what fuel system to run. Im looking for 700+ and after speaking with quite a few individuals decided to run the Boshe pump, -10 feed from Stan (Flamenco-T)
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Old Sep 20, 2005 | 11:18 AM
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You need 1600cc injectors to be safe. I like the Weldon pump myself


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Old Sep 20, 2005 | 12:29 PM
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1200cc inj, sx fuel pump, -10 lines, sx regulator, airomotive fuel filter, making 650 on that. switching the injectors to 1600 to make around 750.
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Old Sep 20, 2005 | 02:30 PM
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<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote, originally posted by tony1 &raquo;</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">700+hp on 1000cc injectors is asking for trouble...</TD></TR></TABLE>

He means 8 1000cc injectors J/K.

Thread creator,

I have some really good pics/info of a well known setup from Utah if you want me to send them to you. Just PM me your e-mail addy.

Phil
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Old Sep 20, 2005 | 04:40 PM
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<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote, originally posted by tegedrex &raquo;</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">Ive run into the same problem recently trying to figure what fuel system to run. Im looking for 700+ and after speaking with quite a few individuals decided to run the Boshe pump, -10 feed from Stan (Flamenco-T)</TD></TR></TABLE>

Are we talking -10 from a sumped tank, or -10 line from a modified stock style pickup? My walbro 255 HP just ain't cuttin it anymore either.
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Old Sep 20, 2005 | 07:39 PM
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-10 from a modified stock pick up. From what Stan said you use a mustang sock and weld on a tube and on the top of the plate you have a -10 fitting welded as well. Hope this is clear
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Old Sep 20, 2005 | 07:52 PM
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<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote, originally posted by tegedrex &raquo;</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">-10 from a modified stock pick up. From what Stan said you use a mustang sock and weld on a tube and on the top of the plate you have a -10 fitting welded as well. Hope this is clear </TD></TR></TABLE>

Coming from a guy who's worked on Mustangs for a long time, that makes a lot of sense Thanks.
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Old Sep 20, 2005 | 08:00 PM
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<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote, originally posted by White Smoke &raquo;</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">

OUCH! Not to be a dick dude but if you care at all about this build you will stay away from TEMPEST! And like I said, you need 1600cc injectors to be safe. I like the Weldon pump myself </TD></TR></TABLE>

Why stay away from tempest? Have you ever seen any work they do or ben there? Joe does good work and know's his **** I dont think you know what your talking about buddy.


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Old Sep 21, 2005 | 04:04 AM
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<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote, originally posted by NAPIER &raquo;</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">
Why stay away from tempest? Have you ever seen any work they do or ben there? Joe does good work and know's his **** I dont think you know what your talking about buddy.</TD></TR></TABLE>

The old Tempest supposedly "tuned" my buddies car about a year and a half ago. They installed his turbo kit and he was running a 12:1 FMU and just a plain jane afc hooked up the standard way. They turned the fuel % way down to get the best power on the dyno. They claimed it was the most power they ever got out of a stock LS on 9psi. He brought it back home and I hooked up my wideband right away to see how good this tune really was. 13.5:1 all the way up to 7.5k rpm on 9psi.

That motor would have been toast in a few weeks. I turned up the fuel % a bit and she ran so much smother. A bit more smoke but 12.5:1 all the way up.

On top of all this they charged him 1600 for a drag kit install and some shitty tuning.

This is only one of 4 bad stories I know of from my local friends over the last 4 years.
I could care less if you believe me or not, im just trying to help.



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Old Sep 21, 2005 | 05:05 AM
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<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote, originally posted by Da K00l Aid Mayun &raquo;</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">My setup will put between 650-700hp to the wheels with tuning, what do you guys suggest for the fuel system (pump, regulator, fuel rail, etc)

Thanks.</TD></TR></TABLE>

call stan @ fast-turbo

he will hook you up
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Old Sep 21, 2005 | 07:52 AM
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<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote, originally posted by White Smoke &raquo;</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">

They supposedly "tuned" my buddies car about a year and a half ago. They installed his turbo kit and he was running a 12:1 FMU and just a plain jane afc hooked up the standard way. They turned the fuel % way down to get the best power on the dyno. They claimed it was the most power they ever got out of a stock LS on 9psi. He brought it back home and I hooked up my wideband right away to see how good this tune really was. 13.5:1 all the way up to 7.5k rpm on 9psi.

That motor would have been toast in a few weeks. I turned up the fuel % a bit and she ran so much smother. A bit more smoke but 12.5:1 all the way up.

On top of all this they charged him 1600 for a drag kit install and some shitty tuning.

**** TEMPEST THEY ARE A RIPOFF

This is only one of 4 bad stories I know of from my local friends over the last 4 years.
I could care less if you believe me or not, im just trying to help.
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Now I see why you thought it sucked well the guy that owned it before had a mid life crisis and no longer owns it or works there. So when that happend Joe simpson took over which hasnt ben to long. He has really turned the shop around and does really good work. If you are still in doubt please stop by one day and I'l gladly change your mind
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Old Sep 21, 2005 | 07:54 AM
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<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote, originally posted by NAPIER &raquo;</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">


Now I see why you thought it sucked well the guy that owned it before had a mid life crisis and no longer owns it or works there. So when that happend Joe simpson took over which hasnt ben to long. He has really turned the shop around and does really good work. If you are still in doubt please stop by one day and I'l gladly change your mind</TD></TR></TABLE>

Exactly, and (White Smoke) you should come drive my car sometime and try to tell me they did a bad job, lol, it is PERFECT
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Old Sep 21, 2005 | 07:59 AM
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Exactly, and (White Smoke) you should come drive my car sometime and try to tell me they did a bad job, lol, it is PERFECT </TD></TR></TABLE>

Hey so are you gonna do what joe said and just run a bosch pump? Btw I was the guy there last night helping joe out and your car is beast man
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aeromotive...drooool......
http://www.force-efi.com/pictures/aero1000.bmp
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Old Sep 21, 2005 | 08:38 AM
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Although I have talked to a few shop owners who bash the Aeromotive pump, we have had no trouble with it. This is a customer's car that we built the fuel system and sumped the tank about 1 1/2 years ago and the pump has worked flawlessly.... even on long drives.

Setup is as follows:
-8 Feed from sumped stock tank using a custom sump we made to an aeromotive filter, then to the A1000, then to another aeromotive filter, and then -8 the rest of the way to the fuel rail.

-6 return line all the way back to the tank w/ modified return fitting and hose in the top of the tank.

If you sump the stock tank make sure to leave baffles for consistent fuel delivery to the pump under acceleration/cornering/braking... good luck
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