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Old Feb 28, 2002 | 03:22 PM
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Hi guys, i'm so furious! Ive been dealing with a guy from Canada for over 8 weeks being led in circles with lies after lies. I should have known better but i really wanted to have faith that he'd come through. I purchased $550 dollars worth of type r parts from him, I cancelled the Pay-Pal after 4 weeks and then he contacted me with "oh i shipped it and i just found out that its been sitting at UPS for two weeks because it was oversized" yeah, right. So we argue back and forth for two weeks, i want him to ship it and then i'll release payment and he wants me to release payment and then he'll ship. Finally we talk on the phone and he convinces me that he'll ship the folowing day that if release payment and give me a tracking number. So i gave it a try and released payment and he tells me its shipped, i email him for the tracking number for a week and finally catch him on the phone and get a number that turns out to be fony. He says he's going to UPS to get to the bottom of it and thats the last i hear from him (week ago!) I start doing some research and find that a month ago he sold the parts to someone else, and write to some of the ebayer's he's done buisness with and they respond that they were scammed aswell. Now i'm furoius! I dont know what to do, anyone who can help me it would be really appreciated, he says his name is Dean West but Kreso thomas and other names have turned up in the process. thanks mat
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Old Feb 28, 2002 | 03:24 PM
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what is his HT and/or ebay username?
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Old Feb 28, 2002 | 03:26 PM
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Damn I feel sorry for you bro. What you should do is buy locally next time unless people here can vouch for another person and they can be trusted.
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Old Feb 28, 2002 | 03:35 PM
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Damn man....didn't you see it coming???? You said it yourself he said he shipped it then it was on hold and all that time the truth was it wasn't sent yet and he still was in contact with you as you haven't released the payment....
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Old Feb 28, 2002 | 03:38 PM
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that sux!!!

if you have his phone#, then if you contact the police they may be able to find out who the phone# belongs to.. etc..
its at least something to try.
good luck
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Old Feb 28, 2002 | 04:11 PM
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Well for starters you and the other people that have gotten it up the **** from this guy should all go to ebay together and get his sorry *** kicked off of ebay to save anyone else. Then you maybe able to file charges with Ebays help and the other people. But atleast go to ebay and get him kicked off. Ebay will also refund you some money, not a huge amount but its better then being spanked out of 500 bucks. Good Luck

to all you Fraud *** Biotches out there
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Old Feb 28, 2002 | 04:34 PM
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thanks guys, i feel like a fool, from the beggining it was kinda weird. But i really needed the parts and i wanted it to work, so i kept trying. His Ebay user name is watercooled1, the only problem with going through ebay is that, i didn't actually buy through ebay, he was selling the whole type r front end and i only needed parts of it, so i waited and no one bid on it so i contacted him after and bought certain pieces, the funny part is that there were small things that made me feel like he was for real, like i offered him a low price for something and he turned me down, if he wasnt going to ship it in the first place why woulnt he take the money? he's in Ontario Canada and supposedly he says he had a shop there for a while, drives an RS turbo?
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Old Feb 28, 2002 | 05:33 PM
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how do i get it back, its been more than 30 days and paypal wont do anything.
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Old Feb 28, 2002 | 05:50 PM
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damn fradulent Canadians, i hate Internet rip off

what's his name, #, address and maybe I can help you, just let me know, more info and so on...
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Old Feb 28, 2002 | 06:04 PM
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Email someone on his Ebay feedback list, and ask them to access his info.

Also, send an email to ebay, and the FBI detailing your story. Right now the FBI really only handles jobs over $5000 but it doesn't hurt to try.

I'm not sure about the PayPal chargeback thing, I think you can do it over 30 days.

Sorry to hear about it, I've lost money too and I have over 300 transactions under my belt.
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Old Feb 28, 2002 | 06:05 PM
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same thing happened to me. Armand Gonzales of San Jose, CA scammed me out of $275 for 99 GSR headlights. I e-mailed him and we decided on $275 shipped for the headlights. I paid and he said he shipped UPS. After 1 week and still no shipment, I e-mailed him, but his e-mail was cancelled. He unregistered his ebay acct. and paypal couldnt' get my money because his acct. balance was $0. I was so pissed. I filed fraud reports to both Austin, TX police and San Jose Police. I will give anyone in the San Jose area $50 if you get my money back. Stop by his house or something. Let me know! thanks! Also, tell me what happens with this post, maybe it will help me get my money back.

Armand Gonzales
3308 Landess Dr., Apt. D
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Old Feb 28, 2002 | 06:14 PM
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thanks guys, i've realized that i hate thieves more than anything and unfortunatedly there seems to be so many in the import community. The guy just called me wich is a good sign but unfortunatedly he gave me no info other than, it was shipped and wait another week, i asked for tracking but he says he doesnt have it. i think its all bull but i'd still be happy to receive product. thanks
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Old Feb 28, 2002 | 06:25 PM
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here, this is the place to file a claim for online fraud.
Internet Fraud Complaint Center

wish you good luck in getting it resolved properly.


i hate scammers!
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Old Feb 28, 2002 | 06:26 PM
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if you paid him out of your own bank account through paypal then you are pretty much screwed. but if you used a credit card there is such a thing as credit protection. with my visa i can deny charges if things have gone awry, with amex you can outright refuse a charge and they will investigate the transaction for you. sorry it happened but we all learn from mistakes. good luck!
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Old Feb 28, 2002 | 06:34 PM
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I did pay with a visa and already placed a claim with them, I dont konw what will happen since if visa takes back the money then Pay Pal will be the one to loose, so they probably have something worked out with the CC companies to protect themselves from that. but we'll see what happens.
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Old Feb 28, 2002 | 07:43 PM
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mattL
on those headlights,
im me at TurbothisLS
when you find out about shipping and cod and stuff
you wouldn't want to sell that 98 rear bumper would you?
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Old Feb 28, 2002 | 07:57 PM
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well, if you want it its yours, unfortunatedly two weeks ago i was chilling at a light and a girl slammed me from behind so i'm also in the market for a new one anyway i've learned that big parts like that you want to purchase locally causu shipping is over 100 due to size.
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Old Feb 28, 2002 | 08:02 PM
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Hey maan. I got scammed by the same dude. But I got scammed for $220 instead. Paypal sent me this info to contact the Sargeant in CA.

Sgt.John Sabala
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John.Sabala@ci.sj.ca.us
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Give him a call man.
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Old Feb 28, 2002 | 08:11 PM
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hey
the bumper shipped is only $25
believe me
i shipped my front bumper for $25 from TX to VA
is the bumper still good?
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Old Feb 28, 2002 | 08:13 PM
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dude yeah!!!
Det. John Savala!!!
Dude!
HEy if we contacted him together we will be more important for sure!!
I will call the officer tommorow
give me some of your info.
e-mail at greddyturbome@hotmail.com
what did you get scammed for?
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Old Feb 28, 2002 | 08:25 PM
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hey u know why the e-mail doesn't work?
it's cause its savala not sabala
try that
but i will still call tommorow
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Old Mar 1, 2002 | 01:05 AM
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i recently heard of this site about paypal its http://www.paypalsucks.com i dunno if this site is for real, but it made me think because I always use paypal. hope this helps in some way and good luck man
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Old Mar 1, 2002 | 06:28 AM
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Ok my brother had the same problem, but eventually got his parts. But if it had gone on as long as your problem has gone on, he would have told the seller that either he has a friend in the area that will be more than happy to pick the parts up for him or say that next week I'll be in the area on business so I'll just come by a pick the parts up. That usually works pretty good in the early stage, again my dad also had the same problem with a guy on ebay and he gave the business gig, and the next week he recieved his stuff. And so the seller doesn't know if you are coming or not. But if you are still in contact with him give him the line that you have a friend up in Canada that will pick up the parts. THen contact ebay, then the police, then the FBI, and so on and so on. Or I was just thinking if you could find someone on this forum who lives close to him, try and get him to do it. There you go. Hope you get your parts.
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Old Mar 1, 2002 | 06:45 AM
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RCMP should be contacted too, since they're the ones who would actually arrest the guy.
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Old Mar 1, 2002 | 11:11 AM
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who?
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