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Old Sep 18, 2005 | 09:29 PM
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i want to get an si, but was wondering if the price of the older si would go lower whent he new one comes out, so should i wait till the new civic to come out, to buy a 2002 si, or is the price going to stay the same
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Old Sep 18, 2005 | 10:17 PM
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Im pretty sure prices will drop when the new one comes out because they have close out sales and they wanna get rid of there inventory so they can get the newer Si's in. Personally I don't like the 2006 Si. I think its ugly. So I say go for the 2002...
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Old Sep 19, 2005 | 12:45 AM
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new si. 197hp, lsd, Si's Stereo system blows away the current si in terms of sound quality. Then you have the MP3 jack, MP3/WMA CD playback, etc... , Si has dual piston front brakes which are theoretically better than the single piston units in the RSX-S, 06Si has maintenance minder, the faux suede seats.

Expect 0-60 times in the 6.7-6.9 range for the Si and 1/4 miles in the 14.8-15.0@93-94mph range. The ep is slow, ugly, and looks like a mini mini van. And the k20a3? ummm yeah it sucks.
but...2 each his own, right?
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Old Sep 19, 2005 | 04:44 PM
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yeah... what NerveAgent said.
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Old Sep 19, 2005 | 05:12 PM
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get an ep, and expect to pay no more than 17k for an 04-05 model. yea they are slow, and might not be all that popular but thats why i love mine.
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Old Sep 19, 2005 | 05:17 PM
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well i was gonna get a 2002 ep never a new one, truth is i cant afford it, im waiting to find an rsx-s around 13k, but things dont look so bright so im wondering about the ep, i like it overall, right now i drive an integra but its about to hit retirement, so just wondering about the ep


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Old Sep 19, 2005 | 06:42 PM
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<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote, originally posted by NerveAgent &raquo;</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">new si. 197hp, lsd, Si's Stereo system blows away the current si in terms of sound quality. Then you have the MP3 jack, MP3/WMA CD playback, etc... , Si has dual piston front brakes which are theoretically better than the single piston units in the RSX-S, 06Si has maintenance minder, the faux suede seats.

Expect 0-60 times in the 6.7-6.9 range for the Si and 1/4 miles in the 14.8-15.0@93-94mph range. The ep is slow, ugly, and looks like a mini mini van. And the k20a3? ummm yeah it sucks.
but...2 each his own, right?</TD></TR></TABLE>

I couldn't have said it better myself.
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Old Sep 19, 2005 | 06:44 PM
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NerveAgent: Expect 0-60 times in the 6.7-6.9 range for the Si and 1/4 miles in the 14.8-15.0@93-94mph range

correction: the new si's 0-60 time will be around 7.3 seconds according to numerous magazines. personally i am dissapointed in the new si. it looks good and will probably handle good but it is still slow
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Old Sep 19, 2005 | 08:17 PM
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yeah its slow, but what does the ep put down?..last time i check car and driver it like 8.0 or something. ( i could be wrong but i don't care.) Anywho rsx type s for 13g's would best your best bet. go for that.
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Old Sep 19, 2005 | 08:26 PM
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NerveAgent- i dont think the new si are gonna run that fast i expect high 15, wit the low emision **** we have it will be restricted just like the rsx are. so dont get ur performince all hyped out. its not even rated at 200 hp. the only thing its got going for it is the lsd.
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Old Sep 19, 2005 | 09:14 PM
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<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote, originally posted by thielke2004 &raquo;</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">NerveAgent- i dont think the new si are gonna run that fast i expect high 15, wit the low emision **** we have it will be restricted just like the rsx are. so dont get ur performince all hyped out. its not even rated at 200 hp. the only thing its got going for it is the lsd.</TD></TR></TABLE>

I'd expect low 15s from the Si considering it has almost the same weight as the RSX-S, similar gearing, more rubber to put down, LSD, and a rev limiter at 8500rpms. But, I guess we'll just have to wait and see.
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Old Sep 19, 2005 | 10:29 PM
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<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote, originally posted by thielke2004 &raquo;</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">NerveAgent- i dont think the new si are gonna run that fast i expect high 15, wit the low emision **** we have it will be restricted just like the rsx are. so dont get ur performince all hyped out. its not even rated at 200 hp. the only thing its got going for it is the lsd.</TD></TR></TABLE>

I don't care what it's rated. I care what it dynos.

http://vtec.net/articles/view-...03644

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Old Sep 20, 2005 | 06:19 AM
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i think the only way uir gonna get it in the 14 is h/i/e and thats maybe, droping the clutch dont give u better 60 ft times at the track so in reality u dont need an lsd if u know how to use the car, well itleast use the clutch, if its the same wight as the rsx meaning its gotta a smaller motor npot rated at 200 hp at the wheels ur gonna get way less performince, and shifting at 85 is not going to make a diffrence cause ur in the vtec for only 500 hundred more big deal, i shift around 8200 so im just saying wit all the newer cars there restricted for emission tests, so out of the show room im seeing high mid 15.
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Old Sep 20, 2005 | 07:23 AM
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<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote, originally posted by NAallTheWAY &raquo;</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">I'd expect low 15s from the Si considering it has almost the same weight as the RSX-S, similar gearing, more rubber to put down, LSD, and a rev limiter at 8500rpms. But, I guess we'll just have to wait and see.</TD></TR></TABLE>

i was planning on modding my k20a3 all the way and the kseries engines stock don't put out that much HP, you're right... but i don't think any EP owner believed that their car was fast stock, but how plans on making it a quick car with mods. These engines have potiential just like any other car. Please don't rate the EP cause of its stock numbers.
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Old Sep 20, 2005 | 08:49 AM
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<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote, originally posted by thielke2004 &raquo;</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">i think the only way uir gonna get it in the 14 is h/i/e and thats maybe, droping the clutch dont give u better 60 ft times at the track so in reality u dont need an lsd if u know how to use the car, well itleast use the clutch, if its the same wight as the rsx meaning its gotta a smaller motor npot rated at 200 hp at the wheels ur gonna get way less performince, and shifting at 85 is not going to make a diffrence cause ur in the vtec for only 500 hundred more big deal, i shift around 8200 so im just saying wit all the newer cars there restricted for emission tests, so out of the show room im seeing high mid 15.</TD></TR></TABLE>

That is one sentence and it didn't make any sense.

<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote, originally posted by EPthrizzle &raquo;</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">

i was planning on modding my k20a3 all the way and the kseries engines stock don't put out that much HP, you're right... but i don't think any EP owner believed that their car was fast stock, but how plans on making it a quick car with mods. These engines have potiential just like any other car. Please don't rate the EP cause of its stock numbers.</TD></TR></TABLE>

I wasn't even talking about the EP3, I was referring to the new Si. I ran a 14.7 with an RSX-S. All it had done was intake. The Si has VERY similar stats, plus LSD. The RSX had 205 rubber and the Si has 215. I don't see the logic in saying it will run high 15s. Anybody that has any driving skill will be able to run low 15s.

Its rated at 197bhp, with or without emissions. HP is HP.
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Old Sep 20, 2005 | 09:11 PM
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Either get the "06 Civic Si or the older RSX Type S, in either way the former would be the beter choice.
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Old Sep 22, 2005 | 11:07 AM
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The 06 Si certainly looks to be shaping up to be a winner, but the EP is such an underrated car it's criminal. The K20A3 isn't much in NA form, true, but she's a great car altogether, plus you get the utility of a hatch that can swallow a lot of ****. I own an EP and I love it, but I admit, she's nothing special to look at it stock trim (of course, mine looks nothing like stock, lol). If I were buying a new car today and had to pick between the outgoing and newer Si, I would def. go for the newer one, simply because of the motor, extra gear, and LSD. But as it is, I'm proud to own the EP, and no '06 Si is going to make me feel jealous at all. (Actually, if I was going for a new car today, I'd be scrounging up all my loose change for an '06 WRX, but I digress..)
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Old Sep 22, 2005 | 11:15 AM
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I drive an EP and the reason why i bought it was because i just wanted a hatch with warranty etc. completely practicle etc just a comuter of a sort. If you really want to get your performance $'s worth and can afford the NEW SI go for it. But a Rsx-S slightly used for $5K less than new would be an even better deal. choices choices. My 2Cents | USED Type-S for less than $18K would be the best bang for the buck.
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Old Sep 22, 2005 | 05:50 PM
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<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote, originally posted by NerveAgent &raquo;</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">new si. 197hp, lsd, Si's Stereo system blows away the current si in terms of sound quality. Then you have the MP3 jack, MP3/WMA CD playback, etc... , Si has dual piston front brakes which are theoretically better than the single piston units in the RSX-S, 06Si has maintenance minder, the faux suede seats.

Expect 0-60 times in the 6.7-6.9 range for the Si and 1/4 miles in the 14.8-15.0@93-94mph range. The ep is slow, ugly, and looks like a mini mini van. And the k20a3? ummm yeah it sucks.
but...2 each his own, right?</TD></TR></TABLE>

...as long as we're listing the new features, I'll add a few. Optional stereo equipment includes the 350 watt dvd/nav system(with voice activation feature) w/subwoofer and amp and speed sensitive volume control. The steering wheel has audio functions and telescopes. There is a shift light indicator, aluminum racing-style pedals, Electric Power Steering(whatever difference that makes), leather wrapped steering wheel, aluminum/leather 6spd. shift stick, and the Si comes available in seven different colors: Habanero Red Pearl, Fiji Blue Pearl, Galaxy Gray Metallic, Alabaster Silver Metallic, Nighthawk Black Pearl, Rallye Red, and Taffeta White. The moonroof is a one touch wonder now, and the windows auto-up, daytime running lights. The brochure says the rev. limit is 8000 in response to a post seen above. The external temperature is also available, and there is now a "max a/c" button. And if you purchase the HFP package, you'll receive some nice butt 18" rims. Also, in point of interest, the new Si weighs 2877lb., which is 37 lbs. heavier than the 2006 rsx-s(2840) give or take the estimate's inaccuracy.

With that said, I realized I was comparing it to the 99-00 Si model, so I don't know if the EP3 already had any of the options mentioned above.


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Old Sep 22, 2005 | 07:40 PM
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Go ahead, get the EP3. If you really feel that it's too slow, save up a bit and boost or swap it.

Making an EP faster is much, much easier than making an FG (that's the '06 Si, right?) into a hatchback with a dash shifter.
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Old Sep 22, 2005 | 09:17 PM
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Also why is LSD soo important. You can get LSD installed on a EP3 granted it will cost. You can't get anything better then a nice HB. Thats why people have been moding them for years and i am sure they will mod them for years to come. Just wait there will be another True HB just give honda some time EP3 all the way granted the 06 si is nice.... But there will be thousands on the road that look just like yours. Even with mods. For where i live finding a nice EP3 is RARE i think i have seen one maybe two.
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