I have a 97 ex and I want more power then i/h/e can give me. Does anyone one know how much more I can get with cams, fuel rail, and a fuel intake manifold or am I better with a swap or turbo?

 

A swap alone would make you a lot happier then a D series, atleast it did for me

and hey you live in Burbank also

 

definately boost the d16 instead of swapping. a turbo b will walk all over a b16

 

indeed, turbo the d16. you will make way more power. even if you only turbo'd the d series to get the same hp as the b16, you would make way more torque than the b series.

 

You can turbo the D blow it up, and get a new block for say $200 vs alot more for a B.
Over all the B has more potential, but the D, done right is cheaper, from the start.
So I would say boost that D.

 

Tubo the SOHC is my suggestion as well, but its not necessarily going to "walk over" any B-series.

 

Turbo D. Finally fixed all my boost leaks and got a working BOV on today. It feels so good to have a car actually push you back into the seats. I ******* love it, and that's only 8psi from a little TD04.

 

i didnt say it will walk over any b series, i said a b16...get it right *******

 

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Lol. Are B16s really that bad in low-end?

 

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untill they hit vtec they are very similar to a d16. thats why ive beaten two SI's and one del sol and all i had was my v2 cai and greddy evo

 

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I thought a B16 was a part of the B-series family. When did this change?

 

yea but i speciafically said it would "walk all over" a b16, i never said any bseries cuz the b18c1 and c5 are also part of the b series family

 

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He was saying it'll beat B16s, not all B series motors.

 

I know/saw what he said. *sigh* Its hard to show sarcasm through typed words. Anyway, I am saying what I am saying because it will not beat every B16. Well it depends on mods of both cars.

 

it will beat every stock b16 and a stock b16 or turbo d16 are his choices.

 

Ok. I just didn't see stock when you mentioned walking a B16.

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well i was staying on the topic with a stock b16 cuz if he swapped in a b16 i highly doubt it was going to be built motor

 

It doesn't have to be "built" to beat a SOHC on moderate 5-8psi.

 

true true

 

turbo b16

 

Just swap, costs about the same and you'll have something more to do to it later on if you want. Turbo B series will walk ANY d series (and I do mean any )

 

nota-eg
if you read this, please pm me or email me @ howitshallbe@msn.com, this stupid trial user thing wont let me do ANYTHING. i was wondering what d series you turboed at 8 psi. i have the d15b7, and i just bought a td05h turbo, starting to piece my HMT kit together. thanks.

 

yeah stock b16's are bad at low end and high end torque for that matter. even the b16a only has like 116 ft lbs of torque and i think thats at around 6500 rpms. thats only 10 more ft lbs than a stock d16z6 (i know you have the y8, but i like 5th generations) and well over $1000 difference for complete swaps. so if you already have the d....

 

Turbo the D16.. and if done right, it WILL walk your average B-series swapped Hondas for a much lower cost. I've been turbo for a lil over a year now and it still runs strong. Here's proof of it: https://honda-tech.com/zerothread?id=1373918

 

turbo sohc vtec will spank pretty much every bolt-on B16 swapped civic.