<U>I need advise from PEOPLE WHO HAVE HAD THIS PROBLEM...NO ONE ELSE!!! </U>


Ok, Car will not start by key; I can push start the car. When I turn the key to the start position, nothing happens...no sound (clicking or anything). The only thing that happens is that the radio turns off and comes back on...Only modifications to the vehicle that might affect this is an MSD amp. But the car has run fine for more then a year with that installed. Like I said, I can push start the car and it runs fine.

Battery is fine
Starter is new (just replace because i thought that was the problem)
Main relay is fine...



How often does an ignition switch burnout?
What about the harness?

Anyone have any ideas? Im tired of push starting my car...


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check your battery fuse...thinks it a 50 or 70 amp

 

Thanks but I've checked ALL fuses...

I've checked EVERYTHING that I could think of...

 

is it turning over when you turn the key (trying to crank)? if not then it might be the starter. Did you change the battery to actually see if it is not the battery or at least see the voltage of the battery. You might think it has power but it just might not have enough to crank over. tyr the positive lead to the starter and see if it will start. Other then that all I can think of is that it's the ignition itself not the switch. Are there any mods on the car such as msd or any other aftermarket ignition system or did you have it in the past.

 

Does it smell like the engine is flooded with gas?

Did you check for spark?


Is the T belt still in tact?

 

Thanks for the replies...I edited the post to be a little more specific.

Again...

Battery has been tested (Its almost new, it better be good)
Main has been tested
Starter is new

 

Have you pulled the steering column cover and inspected the ignition cylinder? I have had the little 'trigger' in the white cap break off (dont ask me how) causing the cylinder not to engage the starter.

Im sorry if thats a horrible explanation on what it could be, ill snap a pic in the moring of what im thinking of. That way you can determine if it is the ignition cylinder itself, or something downstream.

 

Interesting....


SHow me...

 

Bump

 

he means the ignition switch its held on by 2 phillips screws i would check that there a square plastic peice that turns the switch on it mite have broken off. just take off the 2 pieces for the steerin colum and u cant misss it.

 

sounds like youre very experienced in this! lol

 

that could be the key tumbler.

 

<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote, originally posted by gsr dood &raquo;</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">he means the ignition switch its held on by 2 phillips screws i would check that there a square plastic peice that turns the switch on it mite have broken off. just take off the 2 pieces for the steerin colum and u cant misss it.</TD></TR></TABLE>

I don't think he's refering to the Switch itself...I believe he's refering to a little white connection on top of the cylinder...

 

<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote, originally posted by teggy182 &raquo;</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">that could be the key tumbler.</TD></TR></TABLE>


What the hell is a key tumlber?

 

check the little female connection on the starer (not the + from the batt) if it is not connected it will not start. you will get all of your dash lights but it will not turn over

 

Did you clean your battery wires? Positive and negative? Right where you put the wires onto the positive and neg terminals, the wires are know to rust and lose there strength. Clean them up real good, or even wiggle them around while someone tries to start the car. If else is in working or new condition, thats my best guess. Reason why is cuz it happened to me a month ago!! hahaha, and I bought a new starter thinking it was that, and when it still didnt want to start, bought it to a mechanic, and first thing he said was clean the wire where pos and neg meet up at the terminals, and sure enough... And I got rid of a perfectly good Denso starter....

 

<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote, originally posted by 2006CiViCsI &raquo;</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">Did you clean your battery wires? Positive and negative?.......... And I got rid of a perfectly good Denso starter.... </TD></TR></TABLE>


Good thinking, but all wires and connections are free from grime...and I also probably just got rid of a perfectly good Denso starter.

 

<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote, originally posted by fishhead &raquo;</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">check the little female connection on the starer (not the + from the batt) if it is not connected it will not start. you will get all of your dash lights but it will not turn over</TD></TR></TABLE>


Was the first thing that I checked.

Keep the ideas coming...

 

<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote, originally posted by C-speed Ricer &raquo;</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">Good thinking, but all wires and connections are free from grime...and I also probably just got rid of a perfectly good Denso starter. </TD></TR></TABLE>

Try it when you get the chance, I wanna know if it works. And my wires didnt look dirty at all, the connection was just not strong enough, first time I didnt even clean them, I just wiggled them while someone cranked my car, and vuala!! Well, good luck.

 

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Try it when you get the chance, I wanna know if it works. And my wires didnt look dirty at all, the connection was just not strong enough, first time I didnt even clean them, I just wiggled them while someone cranked my car, and vuala!! Well, good luck. </TD></TR></TABLE>


Actually, wires and connections are about a year old. Still like new actually, Im pretty sure its in the ignition switch or the harness for the switch...Thanks for the input.

 

what you should check for is all the grounds going to d motor, because if your getting signal from the ignition switch and batt, check your grounds. what you cand do is make sure the started is bolted all the way in to ground it out and try crancking it. another thing that you can do is take a ground wire from the batt to anywhere in the trainy, that will ground out the engine.

 

bump...

 

<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote, originally posted by TODA GS_R &raquo;</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">sounds like youre very experienced in this! lol</TD></TR></TABLE>

yeah my car was broken into twice both times they fucked up my ignition switch and i had to get new ones so im pretty unfortunatly expierienced in replacing ignition switches. i didnt even realize how easy it was to steal a honda since then i put a spot weld on each of the phillips screws so it can be turned with a screwdriver

 

sounds like the alarm. with the starter disabled initiated.

 

Wish it was...thats not it.