at the time i cant shell out 140 bucks for a race only pad so i'm looking for a nice alternative that i can run on the street and would handle a couple track events

the greenstuffs seem pretty good and grassroots motosports speaks highly of them

anyone use these or shed some light on a better choice for street/light track duty

the car is a 93 civic hb w/gs-r brake upgrade , stainless lines and 4 wheel discs

 

dude, panther +'s are the answer, pay a little extra now but they will last and are totally streetable.

 

What he said

 

Where's MaddMatt when you need him... If I recall correctly, he set the EBC pads he tried on fire... really not what you want out of a track pad... Perhaps he'll see this and respond with the story, my memory isn't all that good sometimes.

 

where to get ? carbotech

just simply panther plus is the full name ?

thanks again guys

 

I ran a set of EBC greens once. Once. A street pad that is being marketed at the wrong sector. They need a disclaimer: "Do not, ever, under any circumstances, expect these pads to last 3 laps in a track environment". They were to the backing plate and ash at the end of one half hour session.
They would make a good autocross pad though...

 

They don't even make a good autocross pad. Not really, anyways. Both CivicSiRacer and I glazed the EBC Greens to death numerous times before chucking them in the trash. Hawk HP+ make a much MUCH better autocross pad, but won't hold up on track. I haven't used the Carbotech pads myself, but from the various trustworthy sources, those are about as close to a dual-purpose street/track pad.

 

anyone got carbotechs number , the web page closes everytime i open it

 

877-899-5024

ask for andie

 

Greenstuff is a nice street pad and a fair autocross pad. Low dust, low noise, moderately aggressive, easy to modulate, rotor friendly. Not a high temp pad though.

Regards,
Alan

 

I will vouch for WRXRacer - the older compounds were ok - mine glazed over within a couple of months. I don't know about EBC's new compounds though.

I'm getting Carbotech or Hawk pads...

 

Yea,

I have the green stuff and they suck. I went driving on some roads with a Miata club in Pennsylvania with some moderate braking and when we made a pitstop there was brake dust everywhere...huge chunks of the brake pad got all over my wheels and the side of my car.

I need to replace them immediately if I want to go to FATT.

drive safe,

aj

 

I've yet hear any glowing reviews of the EBC Greens, and this thread pretty much confirms that.

 

what about Hawk HPs?? i heard they are awsome for street/race.

 

I'm running EBC Red pads...


work very well, don't exhibit any fade

but they squeal like a pig with street use. This is even with anti-squeal crap on them.

i gotta find a pad that'll work with my wilwoods

 

HPS is still pretty tame for the track. The HP+ does lots better, and the Carbotech Panther Plus better still.

 

Panther Plus for agressive street/track...

If you can't afford the P+, then consider the Axxis Ultimate...good for street, auto-x, and light track use...fade-free up to 1000F.

-Andie

 

If you like this track driving thing, you WILL come to the conclusion that you must have a dedicated pad for the track and a dedicated pad for the street. You will come to this conclusion, it's just a matter of time, so just go ahead and go there.

EBC: Not impressive. I used their Redstuff at VIR once. Literally, once. They lasted a whopping 60 miles (3ish sessions, one of which was slow orientation laps) until they started throwing sparks from the backing plate. And VIR is not hard on brakes. 2 weekends ago I use $20 Advance Wearever pads on the same car with the same caliper and rotors and the Advance pads barely wore at all (krshultz, r2x, and phat-S all saw these pads). Even after ~200 track miles if that tells you how crappy the EBCs are.

I've never heard anything positive about Greenstuff. I'm not sure if EBC gave GRM a wheelbarrow full of money to give them a positive review on their E30 M3 or what. The Greenstuff "V4" designation tells me they might have reformulated it, I don't know. What I do know is Panther +, Porterfield R4, or Hawk Blue are still the best choices for track. I also know it doesn't matter how many times EBC reformulates their stuff, it's going to take Carbotech, Porterfield and Hawk all going out of business before I try them again. Even then, I'll probably just go get $20 Wearevers.

 

Everytime someone posts something about EBC, I just wait with glee for Matt's account of his first-hand experience with them... And the memory I have of him dropping the burnt, empty EBC backing plates on the gravel at VIR last year...

Classic.

Andy -who means no offense to Doctor CorteZ for posting a legtimate question.

 

maybe i will just light my old pads on fire then ....... doesnt seem like i will be trying green stuff anytime soon , just called carbotech and spoke with larry good people - will be ordering tommorow - thanks again guys -

Jamie - who hopes to have panther plus on his car for summit march 9th

 

Good choice. Summit is hard-ish on brakes. You can get away with street pads at some tracks (Roebling Road for example) but not Summit Pt. You'll be pleased.

 

Carbotech
Great people, great company, great product
The P+ will make your eyes pop out of their sockets.

 

I really really like my porterfield r4s'. Very streetable with a little more bite then stock and only mild squaling when they are cold. I mean like first thing in the morn cold. Seem to dust a lot IMO, but it's friendly dust that easily hoses off. besides the rota's look more like spoons with a little brake dust on them. Held up fine at VIR, although as a complete nub, I'm sure they never really got worked the way most of these guys would have worked them.