I must say that I am extremly dissappointed to see that the 2006 Honda line-up does not include the RC-51 and the Thunderchicken....I was very serious about buying a twin as my next bike...

That means Honda will not produce a V-twin sportbike (VRF does NOT count!) untill 2007-2008 season??

Yamaha doesn't make a twin sportbike.

Kawasuki, who cares...

Suzuki has the SV's.

Suzuki is the only company producing a V-Twin sportbike for the next year or 2.

That leaves the EXPENSIVE companies (ducks ,aprillas and agusta) with the monopoly on decent twin bikes... So for those of us who can't afford $30,000+ bikes we don't get to ride twins?? Hurtin.

I think this sucks.....What you guys think / predict?

 

The 06 lineup does include the RC-51, they only thing they changed from 05 was a decal on the tank though....now that is lame.

http://powersports.honda.com/m...000R6

 

Oh....I guess its just canada that won't get them for 06...cause its not on the canadian website...ohh thats even lamer...maybe i should delete this post then...

Called honda dealer....they said we won't get getting either the thunderchickens or the RC-51's for 2006....sigh

Looks like Im stuck on inlines for another couple years...oh well... Lovin this R6 anyway! heh

 

kawasaki will be releasing the 650r to compete with the sv 650 http://www.2wf.com/articles/to...8.asp

 

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Yeh Ive heard about taht parellel twin madness....wonder if kawasucki has something there...have to see as they hit the streets...

 

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You could always buy ::gasp:: a used bike.

 

I generally do...I buy the of the year model, but with 500-800 miles on it...just broken in, saves 1000's of $$....

 

C'mon man,you can't expect Honda to make drastic changes everytime you feel they should.There will be a major change next year or the year after.That's like people complaining about the 06 600RR and how the only thing they changes this year is the color.Well of course that's all they changed.The 05 was altered and it costs money for R&D which they can't just throw out the window the following year because some people want to see something completely different.Look at it this way.People want the 600RR(example) to be so spectacular because Yamaha has a crazy new R6.Well This year the R6 got a full revamp from the original YZFR6S,and it'll be the same in 07,yet Honda will have a completely different 600RR for 07.Everyone has their changes at different times and the RC will get one soon.

 

The RC hasn't changed sence 03...

and barely at all sence 2000....6 years without a re-vamp, some say because it was a perfect bike and there was nothing that need be changed...

Im not saying that they should change the models every year I want them to change the models, but according to the candian website and the dealer here canada won't see RC's at all for 06, which made me think they were going to discontinue the RC...thats all.

 

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That means Honda will not produce a V-twin sportbike (VRF does NOT count!) untill 2007-2008 season??

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Okay, say it with me, it VFR.. and of course it doesn't count, it's a V 4. On that note, though, it's a GREAT bike that can do anything you throw at it.

Though, I mean, you don't have to buy Honda or super overpriced to get a V-Twin. Ducati makes a bunch of twins that retail for under $10,000. Suzuki has the SV650 and the SV1000, both of which are under 10 new, easily. Buell's got a few bikes. You could look into a used (or leftover) Aprilia Falco, which usually go cheap. Triumph's got the Speed Triple, while not a twin still a really hot 3. I'm forgetting a bunch, I'm sure.

There's a big market out there, don't hold your brand loyalty too tightly or you might not get something you like.

 

<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote, originally posted by Rhino-RR &raquo;</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">C'mon man,you can't expect Honda to make drastic changes everytime you feel they should.There will be a major change next year or the year after.That's like people complaining about the 06 600RR and how the only thing they changes this year is the color.Well of course that's all they changed.The 05 was altered and it costs money for R&D which they can't just throw out the window the following year because some people want to see something completely different.Look at it this way.People want the 600RR(example) to be so spectacular because Yamaha has a crazy new R6.Well This year the R6 got a full revamp from the original YZFR6S,and it'll be the same in 07,yet Honda will have a completely different 600RR for 07.Everyone has their changes at different times and the RC will get one soon.</TD></TR></TABLE>

You'd expect them to make changes because the 600RR is uncompetetive in high level racing. Also, Yamaha R6S is an 04. They upgraded that this year with the 05 which had some very good upgrades then totally redid the R6 agian with the 06.

 

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Chris Vermulan would beg to differ. We should see a new 600 soon I bet.

 

Imagine that.Another ignorant statement from someone who doesn't know what they're talking about..I laid it all out for you,man.The 05 IS changed from 03-04.The 07 will be a complete revamp for the 600RR and will also offer a 20'th anniversary Edition.And to say the 600RR in not competative in racing is a effing joke.Get off your high horse.

 

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Chris Vermulan would beg to differ. We should see a new 600 soon I bet. </TD></TR></TABLE>

He rides a 1000RR.

 

<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote, originally posted by Rhino-RR &raquo;</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">Imagine that.Another ignorant statement from someone who doesn't know what they're talking about..I laid it all out for you,man.The 05 IS changed from 03-04.The 07 will be a complete revamp for the 600RR and will also offer a 20'th anniversary Edition.And to say the 600RR in not competative in racing is a effing joke.Get off your high horse.</TD></TR></TABLE>

They can change the bike every 6 months at this rate and still won't come up with anything good. They changed the 05' to try and catchup to the rest. Once again they will be left behind in 06' only to try and catchup again in 07'. See a theme here?

 

Honda has the most sales,hands down.Noo need to even argue with you over this.

 

So your new argument is that sales equal performance?

Next you're going to tell me to look at the FX results to see who dominates.

You Honda boys are all too easy to get fired up about nothing.

 

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Eh? The 600RR is dominating World Supersport right now. You could point to AMA but Honda doesn't have a factory effort in Supersport. Erion Honda will be back there next season though.

People were poo-pooing the 1000RR too because it didn't come out on top in mag tests but its second in points in WSBK, winning by a long shot in BSB, and its been winning the 8 hours of Suzuka.

Of course it'll need a heck of an upgrade when they revamp it to compete with the new R6 and Gixxer600 but that's the name of the game.

 

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Eh? The 600RR is dominating World Supersport right now. You could point to AMA but Honda doesn't have a factory effort in Supersport. Erion Honda will be back there next season though.

People were poo-pooing the 1000RR too because it didn't come out on top in mag tests but its second in points in WSBK, winning by a long shot in BSB, and its been winning the 8 hours of Suzuka.

Of course it'll need a heck of an upgrade when they revamp it to compete with the new R6 and Gixxer600 but that's the name of the game.</TD></TR></TABLE>

Ten Kate aren't normal people. That's about the best rebuttal I have to that.

R6 is leading the world stock 600 championship.

 

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Ohh that was a pathetic come back man...sales?? yehhh..

<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote, originally posted by RebornGSR &raquo;</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">So your new argument is that sales equal performance?

Next you're going to tell me to look at the FX results to see who dominates.

You Honda boys are all too easy to get fired up about nothing. </TD></TR></TABLE>

Isn't that the truth...

 

Point being,Honda sells alot because people know they're a good reliable bike..WTF is all this talk about racing,anyway? What does AMA Suspersport racing have to do with our street bikes? OMG The Kwaks are doing well ,I better go buy one to be as cool as Tommy Hayden...Comparing professional racing to your street bike is immature.Yes Honda's do well in FX.Who cares? Not me,because it doesn't make a difference.The big 4 are all great bikes and which one you ride is just a matter of preference.Streetbike sales have alot more to do with our STREETBIKES than who wins the races,so I see nothing wrong with my previous post.It's all the rider when it comes to racing btw.For all you know I'd wax your R6 with my 600RR or vice versa,so please stop referring to professional racing results when talking about which bike you feel is best.

 

Big twins don't sell as well anymore, so it makes sense to cut them. I'll still vote it being lame though.

 

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Im just curious as to why you say this....why is it you think they don't sell well anymore? People don't like a nice linear powerband thats much more managable and comfortable in all circumstances? or is it that there isn't that JOLT of power at say 10,000 rpms that makes your eyes go back in your skull? what do you think?

 

<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote, originally posted by Gixxerfiend &raquo;</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">The RC hasn't changed sence 03...

and barely at all sence 2000....6 years without a re-vamp, some say because it was a perfect bike and there was nothing that need be changed...</TD></TR></TABLE>

Honda never wanted to build it, it got changed as the fuelling was crapola and everyone complained. As for perfect? Pretty yes. Perfect no.

 

Thie biggest complaint I've heard of the RC51 is the crappy ergonomics.Can anyone who has had some seat time on one get into detail as to where the egonomics are not so great?