Thread 1: https://honda-tech.com/zerothread?id=1354544

Thread 2: https://honda-tech.com/zerothread?id=1361071

Just got the car back...














Obviously I've got some cleaning & painting done. After this weekend, I should be able to get "polished" pics

Thanks Jude! http://www.PFMRacing.com

 

Looks good man

 

<------ JEALOUS.... needs to find a shell and make a race caR..... looks awesome

 

Sick Cage.... for using an R to it's full potential.

 

can't say i've seen harness mount locations like that before.

 

BudMan's roll cage > Kendall's roll cage

 

whoa thats redicilously complicated - I love it!

What did you end up paying for the whole shabang?

 

Those are pretty weak side impact bars. They look kinda useless.

 

<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote, originally posted by Alexander &raquo;</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">whoa thats redicilously complicated - I love it!

What did you end up paying for the whole shabang?</TD></TR></TABLE>

I won't short Jude on a specific $$ amount, but I will say that I am extremely satisfied with the results, cost, and experience with PFMRacing.

How's that for an unpaid solicitation

 

<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote, originally posted by D &raquo;</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">can't say i've seen harness mount locations like that before.</TD></TR></TABLE>

Me either. Interesting door bar setup, too. Can't really see what it looks like going into the door, if it does.

Jeff-

I'd be a little concerned with the location of the horizontal bar under the dash. That thing looks like it'd be REALLY close to your knees.

Are the pics possibly misleading a bit, or is that correct?

 

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Doing them this way allows what would normally be the cross bar to be placed lower for more support in the main hoop. The driver's side nub is shorter because my seat can be bolted in 3 positions.

 

<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote, originally posted by IGGY &raquo;</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">Those are pretty weak side impact bars. They look kinda useless.</TD></TR></TABLE>

Actually, I don't think so. I've seen a couple of the impacts that have been taken by Jude's cages & I'm comfy. As mentioned in an earlier post. I've got family to protect...I'm not shortcutting anything.

 

now thats some sick ****

 

Nice moves!!!

 

If your racing the car, does that make the roll cage legal in the rulebook with how you have the harness bar installed? Nice work on the cage though.

 

Dude, someone stole your interior!!!!!!!!! j/k

Looks good Jeff. How much weight did your cage set-up add to the car?

 

<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote, originally posted by JDM Factor &raquo;</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">If your racing the car, does that make the roll cage legal in the rulebook with how you have the harness bar installed? Nice work on the cage though.</TD></TR></TABLE>

Nope. Jude has 12 cars that have scca IT legal cages. In addition, he sponsors the St Louis SCCA driver's school that I attended.

 

76 ft of cage. I forgot to weigh the steel

**runs to send email & find out approx weight.**

I'm guessing ~150lbs?

 

<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote, originally posted by BudMan &raquo;</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">76 ft of cage. I forgot to weigh the steel

**runs to send email & find out approx weight.**

I'm guessing ~150lbs?</TD></TR></TABLE>

For standard pipe:

1.66" O.D. = 2.27 lb/ft
1.90" O.D. = 2.72 lb/ft
2.38" O.D. = 3.66 lb/ft
2.88" O.D. = 5.80 lb/ft

 

<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote, originally posted by BudMan &raquo;</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">

Doing them this way allows what would normally be the cross bar to be placed lower for more support in the main hoop. The driver's side nub is shorter because my seat can be bolted in 3 positions. </TD></TR></TABLE>

If you say so.

 

1) the diagonal just has to pass through the horizontal that runs across the main hoop.

2) looks like pretty standard location for dash bar to me.

3) when do i get to see this thing jeff?

 

I dont think this is inherently a "poor" cage or one that wont protect you in an impact but I can only echo what others have said about this -

I dont like those harness mount locations *at all*... the dash bar is too low, and the forward tubes not up against the a-pillar. Should have pulled the dssh out and trimmed it. I am also concerned with the height of those door bars - they just dont seem to offer much protection.

Best of luck to you next year

 

<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote, originally posted by tnord &raquo;</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">2) looks like pretty standard location for dash bar to me. </TD></TR></TABLE>

Hrm...scary if you ask me.

I can see from the other threads I wasn't the only one who thought about this.

Just watching out for the safety of a fellow racer, that's all.

Oh, and ditto on the good luck wish

 

<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote, originally posted by .RJ &raquo;</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">I dont think this is inherently a "poor" cage or one that wont protect you in an impact but I can only echo what others have said about this -

I dont like those harness mount locations *at all*... the dash bar is too low, and the forward tubes not up against the a-pillar. Should have pulled the dssh out and trimmed it. I am also concerned with the height of those door bars - they just dont seem to offer much protection.

Best of luck to you next year </TD></TR></TABLE>

 

hey jeff -

do you have the seats that require a seatback brace?

i certainly understand everyone's concern with the harness bars, but in reality, it really isn't any different than a seatback brace from my point of view. now if you don't like seatback braces, that's another issue altogether.