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Old Sep 15, 2005 | 10:15 AM
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Hi there I have a 1st Gen b16a (PR3) in a 89 Si and I seem to have a problem where when I maintain a certain throttle load the car seems to bog/feel flat until I give the car some gas and it goes back to normal. I heard that the common problem would be the primary and secondary 02 sensor wires mixed up. I re-wired the two so that C8 and C16 are going to the proper sensors. But the problem remains. I get no codes and when I disconnect the 02 wires I get no ECU code either. Any insight would be helpful. Thanks for your advise in advance.
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Old Sep 15, 2005 | 10:34 AM
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I have the exact same issue with my b16/90si. It really only seems noticable between 2500 and 4000 when trying to keep a solid rpm/mph. I havent messed with my o2 sensors, but I thought thats what the problem might be. Any ideas would certainly be appreciated.
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Old Sep 16, 2005 | 05:17 AM
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Old Sep 16, 2005 | 06:43 AM
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Yeah I had that same problem too half throttle it would bog on me, then i get on it and the car is fine. Never figured out the problem
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Old Sep 16, 2005 | 07:02 AM
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i had the same problem. Change the cap rotor wires and plugs and see how she runs
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Old Sep 16, 2005 | 07:06 AM
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<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote, originally posted by Boosted Chemist &raquo;</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">i had the same problem. Change the cap rotor wires and plugs and see how she runs </TD></TR></TABLE>
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Old Sep 16, 2005 | 07:21 AM
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LOL, my car does it on the turnpike when I driving real far. It will do it for like 20 miles then stop . Its been doing it for almost 5 years now since I have my b16. It drives me nuts though because it only does it once and while. *Yet another reason why I'm going obd1 to get rid of the bullshit from obd0.*
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Old Sep 16, 2005 | 08:50 AM
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check your fuel filter.
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Old Sep 16, 2005 | 09:11 AM
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<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote, originally posted by goforbroke &raquo;</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">LOL, my car does it on the turnpike when I driving real far. It will do it for like 20 miles then stop . Its been doing it for almost 5 years now since I have my b16. It drives me nuts though because it only does it once and while. *Yet another reason why I'm going obd1 to get rid of the bullshit from obd0.*</TD></TR></TABLE>

yeah also after going obd1 with crome, my car runs better even with big *** injectors, the pr3 ecu (obd0) never impressed me much
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Old Sep 16, 2005 | 09:48 AM
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had the same problem with my b16...i got some hotter plugs (nissan maxima spec), ngk plug wires, fpr & guage and the problem went away. runs like new now.
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Old Sep 16, 2005 | 10:11 AM
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had the same bogging problem at half trottle at like 2800-4000 rpm....but after i went obd1 it went away and it never bogged again
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Old Sep 16, 2005 | 10:25 AM
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haha, thats for the replies guys.
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Old Sep 16, 2005 | 10:49 AM
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swap your 02 sensors.... that was my prob years back... Does it go away when you disconnect the sensors
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Old Sep 16, 2005 | 10:51 AM
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yep i have the same issues but iv changed both O2's, dizzy cap and rotor, new plugs new wires new fuel filter and still the bogging continues. It feels like the car missing.
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Old Sep 16, 2005 | 10:53 AM
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O yeah and i was told that it could be the knock sensor replaced that and same crap.
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Old Sep 16, 2005 | 10:54 AM
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you might want to check the wiring to the ECU.
it is worth a try.
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Old Sep 16, 2005 | 11:01 AM
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if your talking to me, its driven fine for the past 11 months but it started the bogging about two or three weeks ago.
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Old Sep 16, 2005 | 11:01 AM
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Mine does in to, and I was told it was from the vafc needing some more tunning. Or it could be an intake leak.
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Old Sep 16, 2005 | 11:02 AM
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well i am talking to anyone with this issue.
i am just saying that an intermittent connection could possibly cause these kinds of symptoms.
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Old Sep 16, 2005 | 12:44 PM
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sorry didn't mean to sound rude, but when i can get the time off work. wiring is next on my checklist.
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Old Sep 16, 2005 | 01:28 PM
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WOW..SO IT IS QUITE COMMON...I WENT AND CHECKED AND C8 AND C16 WERE CROSSED. I RE-CONNECTED THE O2'S TO THE CORRECT ECU CONNECTIONS AND IT STILL DOES THE SAME THING. MAP SENSOR/VACUUM LINES WERE REPLACED. GOT 2 BRAND NEW O2 SENSORS. GOING TO CHANGE THEM TONITE. MY FINGERS ARE CROSSED. IF NOT THEN OBD1 MIGHT BE IN MY FUTURE.
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Old Sep 16, 2005 | 01:39 PM
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Thanks, ****, your thread gave me some ideas because mine tends to bog down also. Except mine is mostly when I fill my gas tank don't know why.
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Old Sep 16, 2005 | 03:39 PM
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yAH mine does that same stuff too, it went away and now my car is just running like crap it bogs like crazy between 2000 to 3500 rpms...i think instead of assuming what to fix i'm just gonna pay to have it diagnosed its the best way to really know.
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Old Sep 16, 2005 | 05:40 PM
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<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote, originally posted by JOGADOGGZ &raquo;</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">yAH mine does that same stuff too, it went away and now my car is just running like crap it bogs like crazy between 2000 to 3500 rpms...i think instead of assuming what to fix i'm just gonna pay to have it diagnosed its the best way to really know.</TD></TR></TABLE>

HA... good luck with that most mechanics don't know what to do or even where to start if they cant plug and OBD machine it and tell them what to fix. just make sure you take it to a shop that's familiar with engine swaps.
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Old Sep 17, 2005 | 01:48 PM
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update...new 02 sensors installed idles kind of high.. but 1000-900 rpm is alright..gonna play with the idle adjust screw.. runs a lot smoother...thanks for the input guys,,,
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