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Old Sep 15, 2005 | 08:28 AM
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I have decided to put some new wheels on my Teg, and i decided on 16 because i dont want my car to ride like shyt. I also heard that the lower the profile on your tires will make the ride worse. i dont know that to be true but thats why i am posting. I have a 96 SE and i'm buying Rota Circuit 8's and was thinking of 205-45-16 or 205-50-16. I think 215 would be to wide and rubbing might be an issue, and i want a nice smooth ride. I also plan to dump the car about 2 inches with some GC's/Koni Yellows. My objective is to drop the car and have the new wheels on in the next few weeks. im getting the wheels in the next few days and tires right after. I would like to see a nice meaty tire tucked nicely that will also ride pretty nice. The tires i think im gonna try out are the Fuzion Zr1. Anyone had those tires before? How were they? im going from yokohama Es100's which were very nice but more expensive and wore faster. let me know what you guys think... (Ken I am looking your direction)
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Old Sep 15, 2005 | 08:56 AM
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<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote, originally posted by sleeperteg &raquo;</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">i decided on 16 because i dont want my car to ride like shyt. I also heard that the lower the profile on your tires will make the ride worse. i dont know that to be true but thats why i am posting.</TD></TR></TABLE>

What affects your ride quality is the sidewall height, rather than the profile (the aspect ratio). For example, a 16" tire will probably have a shorter sidewall than a 15" tire (unless you get some weird sizes), which means that the ride quality is typically worse with the 16". However, there are also advantages to the larger wheel diameter; handling may be better (although typically only up to a certain point) also due to the shorter sidewall, and of course, you may like the "look" that a larger wheel gives you.

<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote, originally posted by sleeperteg &raquo;</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">I have a 96 SE and i'm buying Rota Circuit 8's and was thinking of 205-45-16 or 205-50-16. I think 215 would be to wide and rubbing might be an issue, and i want a nice smooth ride.</TD></TR></TABLE>

The stock tire size on your car is 195/55-15. 205/45-16 would be the better choice, for the reasons you mention as well as to keep the speedometer/odometer accurate (it's off 0.8 percent with 205/45-16, 2.7 percent with 205/50-16).

Again, though, if you're really concerned most with a smooth ride, you might be better off sticking with 15" diameter wheels.

<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote, originally posted by sleeperteg &raquo;</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">The tires i think im gonna try out are the Fuzion Zr1. Anyone had those tires before? How were they? im going from yokohama Es100's which were very nice but more expensive and wore faster. let me know what you guys think...</TD></TR></TABLE>

If you do a search on h-t.com topics with the word "Fuzion" in them, you'll see some opinions on them. There's a side-by-side comparison test of the Fuzion ZRi on the Tire Rack website (click here). Prices for 205/45-16 are $74 for the Fuzion ZRi and $82 for the ES100. Other tires worth considering in this category ("budget performance tires") include the Kumho Ecsta SPT ($77) and the General Exclaim UHP ($55) which were also tested against the ES100 (here), and the Avon Tech M500 ($83), which was included in the Fuzion test. As you can see from the test results, all of these tires are pretty similar in performance, and I'm sure any of them would be satisfactory.

Incidentally, I'm surprised you think the ES100 wears fast. We're getting around 33K miles to a set on our GS-R, and that's a lot better than any other tire we've tried.

<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote, originally posted by sleeperteg &raquo;</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">(Ken I am looking your direction)</TD></TR></TABLE>


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Old Sep 15, 2005 | 09:38 AM
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If your car came with 195-55-15OD 23.4
I would recommend 205-45-16 OD 23.3

When you put both tire sizes next to each other they are the same size. If you have any further questions just ask, and I'm sure someone will help you out. One more thing
OD stands for(OVERALL TIRE DIAMETER).
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Old Sep 15, 2005 | 10:01 AM
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<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote, originally posted by pingaturbo &raquo;</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">When you put both tire sizes next to each other they are the same size.</TD></TR></TABLE>

205/45-16 is slightly smaller (0.8 percent). The calculated outer diameter is 23.26 inches vs 23.44 inches.

However, different tire models and makes sometimes vary from the exact calculation. For example, the old Azenis RT-215 in 205/50-15 was notorious for being larger than other 205/50-15 tires.

<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote, originally posted by pingaturbo &raquo;</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">OD stands for(OVERALL TIRE DIAMETER).</TD></TR></TABLE>

Actually, it stands for OUTER DIAMETER (which means the same thing, of course).
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Old Sep 15, 2005 | 03:47 PM
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this guy is the shyt....
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Old Sep 28, 2005 | 10:29 AM
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I'm just curious on sum tire sizes

I recently had a set of toyo tires 205/50/15 Toyo TS1's
and a a Guy is selling a set of 195/50/15"

Just curious on the Advantages of either set and the Cons!
Just need sum info! Still learning on tire sizes!

Please shed the light!
Thanxs in Advance!
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Old Sep 28, 2005 | 12:26 PM
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<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote, originally posted by SiR_Mugen_00 &raquo;</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">I'm just curious on sum tire sizes

I recently had a set of toyo tires 205/50/15 Toyo TS1's
and a a Guy is selling a set of 195/50/15"

Just curious on the Advantages of either set and the Cons!
Just need sum info! Still learning on tire sizes!

Please shed the light!</TD></TR></TABLE>

As a general rule, it's usually a good idea to try to keep the outer diameter of your tire sizes the same as stock. This maintains the accuracy of your speedometer and odometer, it is less likely to rub than tires that are bigger in diameter than stock, you won't suffer poorer acceleration the way you will with tires that are bigger in diameter than stock, etc.

What car will these be used on? Model, version, year?
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Old Sep 28, 2005 | 07:53 PM
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It's goin on a 2000 Honda Civic SiR
I'm running Kumho tires right now which are 205/50/15

so i'll ask wut are the differences between the 205/50/15 and 195/50/15

Thankyou!

Now that i've asked this again i hope i get the answer i'm lookin for!
what actually makes the differnce in the number? Width? height? I dunno! But I wanna know!
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Old Sep 29, 2005 | 11:32 AM
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<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote, originally posted by SiR_Mugen_00 &raquo;</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">It's goin on a 2000 Honda Civic SiR
I'm running Kumho tires right now which are 205/50/15

so i'll ask wut are the differences between the 205/50/15 and 195/50/15

Thankyou!

Now that i've asked this again i hope i get the answer i'm lookin for!
what actually makes the differnce in the number? Width? height? I dunno! But I wanna know!</TD></TR></TABLE>

The first number (195 or 205) is the "treadwidth" - the width of the tread, in millimeters.

The second number (50) is the "aspect ratio", that tells you the relationship of the height of the sidewall to the width of the tread. A 205/50-15 tire has sidewalls that are (50 percent) * (205 millimeters) = 102.5 mm high.

The third number (15) is the diameter of the wheel, measured at the "bead" (the place on the wheel where the inside edge of the tire lies).

You can calculate the outer diameter of the tire as the outer diameter of the wheel plus two times the sidewall height.
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Old Oct 2, 2005 | 09:25 PM
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Thanxs!

Well would a wider tire be better? or a thinner one? I like wide but will you notice a huge differnce between 195 and 205?

I'm kinda scared i'll buy the 195 tires and not like them!

wut to do!
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Old Oct 3, 2005 | 06:47 AM
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<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote, originally posted by SiR_Mugen_00 &raquo;</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">Well would a wider tire be better? or a thinner one?</TD></TR></TABLE>

What you really want to do is to think about the outer diameter of the tire, rather than ONLY the width. Here's how the outer diameter of the sizes you mentioned compares to stock:

195/55-15 stock
195/50-15 -3.3 percent
205/50-15 -1.6 percent

I would recommend getting your stock size tires (195/55-15) if they're available in the tire you want, and otherwise, getting 205/50-15. I wouldn't get 195/50-15, because that diameter difference (3.3 percent) is fairly significant, but it's your choice.

<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote, originally posted by SiR_Mugen_00 &raquo;</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">I like wide but will you notice a huge differnce between 195 and 205?</TD></TR></TABLE>

No.

Again, it's not the width; it's the diameter. I would try to get 195/55-15, and wouldn't use 195/50-15.
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