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Old Feb 27, 2002 | 09:43 PM
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A guy i know has a 97-98 GSR and right now has a best time of 14.6@98 with CTR Intake Cam,AEM pulley,Cam Gears,JDM TR header,advanced timing,Car Sound Cat, exhaust(not sure what one),B&M FPR, Iceman CAI,and I think thats it except for his "secret" mods. His car has ran a best of 14.4@97 with someone else driving. He is full weight and interior with stock rims/Dunlop SP 8000's(now has Bridgstone Potenzas) and spins pretty good at the track. Is this not a normal time? He says that he will be in the 13's after putting on his new Skunk 2 intake. Also, he is trying to put on a stock Prelude intake setup with these valves and such that he says is supposed to make more power somehow. I have seen his car at track and on street and it is fast. I don't know a whole lot about these cars(trying to learn!) and just doubt it will be in 13's without having to put slicks on or something. Do you think he has other mods that he isn't admiting too? Thanks guys..like the site..lot of good info!
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Old Feb 27, 2002 | 09:52 PM
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Default Re: GSR in 13's NA on street tires? BS or no? (BlkStang)

can be done............


fock slicks....
lower the tire pressure....

LOL...........some R's can do high 13s easy on stock tires...........
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Old Feb 28, 2002 | 12:10 AM
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Can be done...
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Old Feb 28, 2002 | 01:03 AM
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It's absolutely possible based on the setup he is running
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Old Feb 28, 2002 | 03:48 AM
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he should be running close to that now, if he could drive. i've seen people w/ i/h/e go mid-low 14's.
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Old Feb 28, 2002 | 04:32 AM
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I agreed as well.

The Skunk2 Manifold (if that what you are talking about) and some tuning should be able to put him into the high 13's with some sticky *** street tires.

Does he have VAFC? I think the CTR cam would like a little higher of a VTEC x-over then stock as well.
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Old Feb 28, 2002 | 04:40 AM
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indeed the CTR cams might bog down, but remeber that the VTEC is set lower to take advantage of the longer 2-3 gear, therefore if you fall out of vtec, you will loose more time then having lower vtec (this is the reason why the JDM tuners use low vtec (for road racing))
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Old Feb 28, 2002 | 04:50 AM
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13's are possible if he can drive
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Old Feb 28, 2002 | 06:12 AM
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if he can drive the hell out that car and the addition of skunk2 mani, he maybe can do 14.0 flat or possible 13.9. unless he goes with NOS, he can see low 13's and that is with slicks or drag radials not street tires. otherwise he is gonna need some higher compression pistons, tuning, etc...

that stuff with the prelude intake mani, i have never heard of before

oh and BTW, welcome to the board and have fun
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Old Feb 28, 2002 | 06:44 AM
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I have almost the same mods, but the cams, and i think i can pull off a 14.5-14.7 with my setup and a good luanch. I can drive good, but my clutch is starting to go, so that is gona hurt my luanch. If that guy is a good driver he can see 13's easily.
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Old Feb 28, 2002 | 07:36 AM
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without slicks, i'd bet he'll stay in the 14's, but im not a betting man. if he has some other mods he's not mentioning ( Throttle body <w/s2 manifold>, headwork, test pipe, other little goodies ) then it's definately a possibility. put it like this. i have a friend w/ a b18c1 block, w/ jdm r low end shiz, a ITR head, mani, and TB, a joe shmoe intake, a dc 4-1 jdm header (now a jun, but...)test pipe, greddy mx exhaust, and did i mention toda b cams? he pulle da 13.8 on slicks w/ full interior. if he strips the hell out of that thing ( your friend , not mine ) then maybe it's possible on slicks, but i'd say good luck though.
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Old Feb 28, 2002 | 07:59 AM
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WOW..that was fast response! He does have a tapered/ported throttle body I heard. With the high trap speed , I would think he should be close to 14.0-14.1 if he had traction and drove better. He is telling people he will be in mid 13's.. 13.4 to be exact. How much is the Skunk 2 intake worth? Just curious. Thanks for all the quick replies!!
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Old Feb 28, 2002 | 10:48 AM
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skunk 2 frees up some hp from the restricted GSR mani. it gives some top end
but u lose a little in low end.
i gained 12hp overall with 10-12 hp in the midrange.
not bad for 3 bills

advise ur friend to get an ITR tranny w/ LSD (OE or Kazz or quaife)
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Old Feb 28, 2002 | 10:54 AM
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The more power you make the harder it is to get traction. Remember ITR's have lsd's. GSR's don't. ITR also has closer gearing. I haven't seen anyone (in a GSR) run 13's on street tires yet.. I don't consider a drag radial (bfg or nitto) a street tire..
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Old Feb 28, 2002 | 11:06 AM
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that's why i got me an LSD
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Old Feb 28, 2002 | 12:13 PM
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He doesn't have a V-AFC...forgot to say that.
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Old Feb 28, 2002 | 12:29 PM
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Hmmmm,

Maybe Tony the Tiger? Not sure if he has an official timeslip.

He might have ITR tranny though now?

FB

The more power you make the harder it is to get traction. Remember ITR's have lsd's. GSR's don't. ITR also has closer gearing. I haven't seen anyone (in a GSR) run 13's on street tires yet.. I don't consider a drag radial (bfg or nitto) a street tire..
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Old Feb 28, 2002 | 01:49 PM
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its very possible..
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Old Feb 28, 2002 | 01:58 PM
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WOW..that was fast response! Thanks for all the quick replies!!
Welcome to H-T.com! Quick replies happens once in a blue-moon.

Retaining to your ? it is possible! Lower the tire press. and the mod's he put in!
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Old Feb 28, 2002 | 06:30 PM
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i have seen in person two all motor street driven low 13 second gsr 's
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Old Feb 28, 2002 | 06:39 PM
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it can be done.. mostly driver and tires... but cams, headwork, i/h/e, and clutch...

or just put her on the bottle
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Old Feb 28, 2002 | 11:00 PM
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I don't doubt that it is possible for a GSR to be in 13's since i have done alot of searcing in here and saw some nice times. I just want to know it is possible with his mods he has. BTW..I forgot..he is leasing this car!!! I doubt he has touched the motor as far as porting or anything. He just had a piston/ring problem not too long ago of some sort and had to have it fixed at the dealer. I don't know what he does to make it look untouched. He has no probs at the dealer though. I do believe he is buying it anyway. His wife has a LS Teg also. It has I/H/E and he is gonna put a VTEC B18mhead on it for some more juice. Thanks again...
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Old Mar 1, 2002 | 12:49 AM
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Hmmmm,

Maybe Tony the Tiger? Not sure if he has an official timeslip.

He might have ITR tranny though now?

FB

The more power you make the harder it is to get traction. Remember ITR's have lsd's. GSR's don't. ITR also has closer gearing. I haven't seen anyone (in a GSR) run 13's on street tires yet.. I don't consider a drag radial (bfg or nitto) a street tire..
Yeah, i don't really count because I have an ITR tranny with LSD, and my setup is far different that the guy that blkstang was talking about. High 13's I believe is possible... but mid 13's? No way... not without some serious power.


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Old Mar 1, 2002 | 03:08 AM
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Hey Tony.....
We will have to arrange a little meeting so that I can see where I still have work to do. Check out my signature and let me know what you think
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Old Mar 1, 2002 | 05:20 AM
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hey canuck Mx6,
nice GSR but do u still have those clear tails on??

just check out Tony the Tigers webpage in his signature.
all his mods are there. his car is freakin sick, sick, sick
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