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Old Sep 12, 2005 | 09:59 PM
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as the title says, im ordering this package
http://www.ground-control-stor...I=681

im just wondering what spring rates i should go with.
i want a stiff ride, but it is a daily driver, and i wont be doing any autox or drag in the near future. Please any thoughts?

also, when i actually recieve the setup...will there be anything i need to do?, or is it just bolt-on?

--thanks in advance.
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Old Sep 13, 2005 | 10:19 AM
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<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote, originally posted by alacard &raquo;</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">as the title says, im ordering this package
http://www.ground-control-stor...I=681

im just wondering what spring rates i should go with.
i want a stiff ride, but it is a daily driver, and i wont be doing any autox or drag in the near future. Please any thoughts?

also, when i actually recieve the setup...will there be anything i need to do?, or is it just bolt-on?

--thanks in advance.</TD></TR></TABLE>

If your not going to put the car on the track, wouldn't the standard rates be best? I believe for an Integra, its 380/250, which would certainly be stiffer than stock.
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Old Sep 13, 2005 | 10:46 AM
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ya just get the normal rates
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Old Sep 13, 2005 | 02:41 PM
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but the thing is...it doesnt list the standard rates...so i wouldnt know what they are.
so for a civic would it be 380 fronts, and 250 rears?
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Old Sep 13, 2005 | 03:36 PM
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well, i ordered them with 380/250 spring rates..but now for my second question:

anything i need to do before installation?
or is it just bolt on?
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Old Sep 13, 2005 | 04:10 PM
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<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote, originally posted by alacard &raquo;</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">well, i ordered them with 380/250 spring rates..but now for my second question:

anything i need to do before installation?
or is it just bolt on?</TD></TR></TABLE>

it's pretty much a bolt off bolt on affair. you'll be using the OEM top hats from the current shock assembly, so you'll need to disassemble those eventually, and you'll also need to cut the dustboots, if the DC came with the same metal ones that my bb6 did.

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Old Sep 13, 2005 | 09:57 PM
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<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote, originally posted by bad-monkey &raquo;</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">it's pretty much a bolt off bolt on affair. you'll be using the OEM top hats from the current shock assembly, so you'll need to disassemble those eventually, and you'll also need to cut the dustboots, if the DC came with the same metal ones that my bb6 did.</TD></TR></TABLE>

hmm, yeah i was reading that in another thread...but it seems like these come all put together:
http://www.ground-control-stor...I=681

but im not positive...these seem like they come with everything ready to bolt on?
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Old Sep 13, 2005 | 10:05 PM
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<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote, originally posted by alacard &raquo;</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">hmm, yeah i was reading that in another thread...but it seems like these come all put together:
http://www.ground-control-stor...I=681

but im not positive...these seem like they come with everything ready to bolt on?</TD></TR></TABLE>

oh duh, it comes with the GC top hats. yup, just bolt yours out and put these ones in after you put them together.

that's a great deal.
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Old Sep 13, 2005 | 11:49 PM
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You might have to smack the brake line bracket off the stock shocks but that takes 2 min.
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Old Sep 14, 2005 | 10:49 PM
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<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote, originally posted by bad-monkey &raquo;</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">oh duh, it comes with the GC top hats. yup, just bolt yours out and put these ones in after you put them together.

that's a great deal.</TD></TR></TABLE>

does that mean ill have to put the gc spring's on the koni shocks etc?...if so, does that mean ill have to preload them and what not?

--thanks for the info guys
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Old Sep 14, 2005 | 11:02 PM
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<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote, originally posted by alacard &raquo;</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">does that mean ill have to put the gc spring's on the koni shocks etc?...if so, does that mean ill have to preload them and what not?

--thanks for the info guys</TD></TR></TABLE>

yes. the shocks and GC's should come with instructions on how to put it all together. the good thing about the GC top hats (along w/ some other stuff) is that you will be able to preassemble the shock/springs before you wrench on the car itself.

don't worry about preloading the springs. just worry about what ride height you want, which will be a little painstaking.
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Old Sep 16, 2005 | 10:00 PM
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arent there serious consequences to not preloading??

or are you just saying this because they come preloaded, and its not necessary?
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Old Sep 16, 2005 | 11:55 PM
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Preloaded with the rates I chose was higher ride height than stock, so its most likely not needed.
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Old Sep 17, 2005 | 09:10 AM
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First of all, there is alot of miscommunication going on around here.
So listen up dude. I recieved my order and I installed the front yesterday and I am going to do the rears today.

-Everything is preassemble so all you have to do is take out the old and put in the new.
-There is no instructions.
-Just zip tie the brake brackets to the shock.
-The car sits lower than stock at the highest setting.
-I have 430 in the front and the rears are still stock but here's my 0.02$ The ride is almost like stock with a little bounciness on full soft. So far, I'm happy.
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Old Sep 17, 2005 | 10:26 AM
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<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote, originally posted by sirg-vtec &raquo;</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">First of all, there is alot of miscommunication going on around here.
-Just zip tie the brake brackets to the shock.
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The brackets come off with a screwdriver and a hammer in 2 minutes for both front stock shocks and they SLIDE on the Konis, theres no reason to not smack them off and dont say others are miscommunicating when you offer up shitty information like that

Taken from RJ. Koni shock install (read it next time douche)



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Old Sep 25, 2005 | 10:20 AM
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so, no preloading at all, just: old ones out, new ones in?

thanks for all the help guys.

<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote, originally posted by sirg-vtec &raquo;</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">First of all, there is alot of miscommunication going on around here.
So listen up dude. I recieved my order and I installed the front yesterday and I am going to do the rears today.

-Everything is preassemble so all you have to do is take out the old and put in the new.
-There is no instructions.
-Just zip tie the brake brackets to the shock.
-The car sits lower than stock at the highest setting.
-I have 430 in the front and the rears are still stock but here's my 0.02$ The ride is almost like stock with a little bounciness on full soft. So far, I'm happy. </TD></TR></TABLE>

that kind of sucks...i really was wanting the stiff ride..i dont want it to feel stock at all.
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Old Sep 25, 2005 | 12:02 PM
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Its stiff enough for the streets. You could always get new springs later if you feel like the ots rates is too soft for you.
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Old Sep 26, 2005 | 09:38 AM
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i have the same set up can't beat it
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