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Old Sep 9, 2005 | 03:31 PM
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HI guys,
well i am about to buy Ksport suspension and Ksport LCA's and a good front and rear camber kit for this kit. i want to buy these parts:

1-front strut tower bar
2-rear strut tower bar
3-rear sway bar with tie bar

Now the question is where can i buy the above (all three) as a package and still get good handling.....not looking for something expensive neither really cheap somehthing that is worth each buck!

thanks in advance,
km


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Old Sep 9, 2005 | 04:19 PM
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<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote, originally posted by IntegraTypeR &raquo;</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">HI guys,
well i am about to buy Ksport suspension and Ksport LCA's and a good front and rear camber kit for this kit. i want to buy these parts:

1-front strut tower bar
2-rear strut tower bar
3-rear sway bar with tie bar

Now the question is where can i buy the above (all three) as a package and still get good handling.....not looking for something expensive neither really cheap somehthing that is worth each buck!

thanks in advance,
km


Modified by IntegraTypeR at 4:47 AM 9/10/2005</TD></TR></TABLE>

If you've got an ITR or a GSR, you wouldn't need a new Front STB cuz you have one and it does just as little as an aftermarket one would

the rear STB is totally unnecessary.

the rear sway depends on what diameter you want to run, and there are a billion places to get one, but which one is right for you depends on your setup and what the car will be used for. if you don't need tons of bar, the ITR rear sway should be fine. if you need more bar, there's the comptech, the aspec, the progress, etc.
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Old Sep 9, 2005 | 11:10 PM
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dood bad monkey, u track ur prelude. You got to PM me I want to know all bout ur car. My buddy with the same model prelude wants to go dragger and I need some role model car to tell him otherwise. TY
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Old Sep 10, 2005 | 02:47 AM
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<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote, originally posted by bad-monkey &raquo;</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">

If you've got an ITR or a GSR, you wouldn't need a new Front STB cuz you have one and it does just as little as an aftermarket one would

the rear STB is totally unnecessary.

the rear sway depends on what diameter you want to run, and there are a billion places to get one, but which one is right for you depends on your setup and what the car will be used for. if you don't need tons of bar, the ITR rear sway should be fine. if you need more bar, there's the comptech, the aspec, the progress, etc.</TD></TR></TABLE>

Well i have 99 civic hatchback....if you are saying the rear STB is unnecessary then lets concentrate on the front STR and the rear sway bar with tie bar....i know GSR rear brakes fit EK's but do the sway bar fit too? and which sway bar with the tie bar kit would you reccomend? i saw this Invidia one!

let me know your thouhts!
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Old Sep 11, 2005 | 02:39 AM
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Old Sep 12, 2005 | 10:41 AM
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<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote, originally posted by IntegraTypeR &raquo;</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">Well i have 99 civic hatchback....if you are saying the rear STB is unnecessary then lets concentrate on the front STR and the rear sway bar with tie bar....i know GSR rear brakes fit EK's but do the sway bar fit too? and which sway bar with the tie bar kit would you reccomend? i saw this Invidia one!

let me know your thouhts!</TD></TR></TABLE>

the front STB is unnecessary too, IMHO, though people will disagree with me. It turns out that it's mostly a "feel" difference, where some people feel a difference and some people don't. I don't notice the difference b/w a car w/ or w/o a STB. basically, my philosophy on it is that it's a last priority when it comes to modifications, because even if it was doing its job, it's not nearly as important as the suspension (springs, shocks, sway bars, etc) since STB's aren't a suspension piece--they're more a part of the chassis.

the rear sway bar is 123123154534534534 x more important, though. i'd look into the a-spec kit, which replaces the whole rear subframe, or the comptech kit. there are some subframe tearout problems with civic chassis and big swaybars. If you want something more casual, an ITR rear sway (or similar) should be ok. as far as the specific mounting of ITR/GSR sways to EK chassis, i don't know. hopefully someone can chime in.
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Old Sep 12, 2005 | 11:24 AM
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i like my front strut bar. the difference is there.

but do NOT even talk about a strut bar and a sway bar in the same sentence. they have absolutely no relation to each other.
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Old Sep 13, 2005 | 10:43 PM
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<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote, originally posted by bad-monkey &raquo;</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">
there are some subframe tearout problems with civic chassis and big swaybars.</TD></TR></TABLE>

why would they tear? so if big sway bars tear then what could happen to the stock ones?
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Old Sep 14, 2005 | 07:18 AM
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<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote, originally posted by IntegraTypeR &raquo;</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">why would they tear? so if big sway bars tear then what could happen to the stock ones? </TD></TR></TABLE>

ah it's not the sway bars that are tearing, it's the part of the chassis they mount to that tears. under hard cornering with soft spring rates, a thick rear sway is exerting a pretty large amount of force to prevent the car from swaying. this force, repeatedly applied to the rear subframe can damage it, since it probably wasn't designed to handle that big of a sway bar.

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Old Sep 14, 2005 | 08:31 AM
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Now has this been a problem with all Civic and Integra chassis(es..?)? Or just the one where the swaybar mounting points have been spaced out further than the stock location, where the subframe is not as reinforced? I remember reading that somewhere, and I want to say it was the EM/EK/EJ chassis... not sure though.
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Old Sep 14, 2005 | 03:26 PM
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the rear sways would be great...
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