Hi,

I'm thinking about getting a Del Sol and would eventually like to get it to run low 14's to high 13's in the 1/4 mile. I was wondering if an engine swap would be necessary or could I reach these times with a Supercharger or Turbocharger? If I do need to swap, what engine do you recommend?

Thanks.

 

I'm quite familiar with del sol's, a friend of mine has a 93 with a k20a swap and turbo'd and that runs like 14.3's with street tires. The main problem is that he has so much motor and not enough weight that it kills him in the traps, especially 60' times. So with that in mind, if you have an si with a b16a usdm, you could keep it and turbo it to make 13-14's in a quarter just make sure you dont shave too much weight in the front, and well TRACTION-BARS, and LSD are a great thing.

 

Holy jesus. A k20 should do low 13s to high 12s in a sol.

But I'm just going by my butt dyno and e-racing.

 

<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote, originally posted by one bad dx &raquo;</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">I'm quite familiar with del sol's, a friend of mine has a 93 with a k20a swap and turbo'd and that runs like 14.3's with street tires. The main problem is that he has so much motor and not enough weight that it kills him in the traps, especially 60' times. So with that in mind, if you have an si with a b16a usdm, you could keep it and turbo it to make 13-14's in a quarter just make sure you dont shave too much weight in the front, and well TRACTION-BARS, and LSD are a great thing.</TD></TR></TABLE>

That seems a little high for a K20A. My best friend has a 98 hatch and runs 14.12 with a DX tranny and 12psi of boost. The k20a should be running faster then a SOHC Y8.

 

<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote, originally posted by duggy &raquo;</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">Holy jesus. A k20 should do low 13s to high 12s in a sol.

But I'm just going by my butt dyno and e-racing.</TD></TR></TABLE>

There is at least one of my friends that runs an high 12 in a 7th gen with a k20 turbo. I wouldn't say that weight should have that much to do with it. suspension and tires should take care of the problem.

<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote, originally posted by IcebergMan &raquo;</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">Hi,

I'm thinking about getting a Del Sol and would eventually like to get it to run low 14's to high 13's in the 1/4 mile. I was wondering if an engine swap would be necessary or could I reach these times with a Supercharger or Turbocharger? If I do need to swap, what engine do you recommend?

Thanks.</TD></TR></TABLE>

Which style Sol are we talking about here?

-Shane

 

What style Sol's are there? Sorry, I'm not very familiar with them.

 

by styles you mean trim? there are S, SI, and VTEC

 

<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote, originally posted by KingKhong &raquo;</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">by styles you mean trim? there are S, SI, and VTEC</TD></TR></TABLE>

S, Si, SiR. D15B7, D16Z6, and the B16? DOHC Vtec.

 

I would probably try to get the one that would not require an engine swap, if possible.

 

50% of your 1/4mi time is driver...

 

for your goals, get an si because it's cheaper insurance than the VTEC model and boost it. Anything around 200whp and 180ish torque should get you your times with good 60's.

 

<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote, originally posted by KingKhong &raquo;</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">by styles you mean trim? there are S, SI, and VTEC</TD></TR></TABLE>

Yeah sorry. I probably had too many when I typed that j/k.

<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote, originally posted by IcebergMan &raquo;</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">I would probably try to get the one that would not require an engine swap, if possible.</TD></TR></TABLE>

Then you want the DOHC VTEC trim.

<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote, originally posted by PA MATT &raquo;</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">for your goals, get an si because it's cheaper insurance than the VTEC model and boost it. Anything around 200whp and 180ish torque should get you your times with good 60's.</TD></TR></TABLE>

But then again, this is probably true too.

-Shane

 

You could say I'm partial because I have a boosted si, but the vtec model is much more expensive and is not needed to run high 13's. So with either car, a motor swap is not neccesary, however, a b16 will obviously make better power. It won't run those times n/a though unless you put a lot of work into it

 

get a b16 sol. i loved mine until a bastard ran a red light and totaled it!

 

juz get a Del Sol Si...i love mine, plus u can juz boost it... i think edelbrock came out wid\th a turbo kit for the D16z6 (SOHC VTEC)

 

yeah they did...check it out

http://www.edelbrock.com/autom....html

 

Okay, thanks. So it look like that with an Si or a VTEC I'll have to get a turbo and some bolt ons to run the times that I want?

Sorry for the super late post, I've been on a research trip to the Galapagos Islands off of Ecuador and haven't been able to reach an internet source until now.

 

Bump.

 

Vtec = B16 (vtec). Add nitrous and you'll be there.

SI= D16Z6 (vtec). Add turbo and you're there.

S = D15 (non-vtec). Add H22 and you're there .

 

<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote, originally posted by one bad dx &raquo;</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">a friend of mine has a 93 with a k20a swap and turbo'd and that runs like 14.3's with street tires. The main problem is that he has so much motor and not enough weight that it kills him in the traps, especially 60' times. </TD></TR></TABLE>

K20 swap non turbo is faster than that. not enough weight? are you serious?

<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote, originally posted by one bad dx &raquo;</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">So with that in mind, if you have an si with a b16a usdm, you could keep it and turbo it to make 13-14's in a quarter just make sure you dont shave too much weight in the front,</TD></TR></TABLE>

SI's have sohc vtec, not b16

<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote, originally posted by one bad dx &raquo;</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">I'm quite familiar with del sol's,</TD></TR></TABLE>

Apparently not.

<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote, originally posted by one bad dx &raquo;</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">and well TRACTION-BARS, and LSD are a great thing.</TD></TR></TABLE>

you got something right.

 

Okay, thanks. I don't really want to run nitrous so with a VTEC and a turbo, what times could I expect?

Thanks.

 

<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote, originally posted by IcebergMan &raquo;</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">Okay, thanks. I don't really want to run nitrous so with a VTEC and a turbo, what times could I expect?
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depends on your setup. low 13's is easily attainable without touching internals. There was a local one last year running low 12's with a built bottom end.

 

Sweet thanks. Looks like I'm looking for an Si or VTEC.

 

i have a 93 S with a b16 swap and a 55 shot of nitrous and i was running 14.1 consistently, with better 60 fts i could have hit a 13.9

I'd say the cheapest way to get to your low 14's would be to use nitrous on a b16/b18c, it's probably not the safest and most reliable though, depending on how often you spray and how big of a shot you use

 

Okay, thanks. One more thing, does a Civic Si (I believe it's the EM1) have the same motor and what not? Would it get the same times with a turbo?

Thanks.