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Old Feb 26, 2002 | 05:44 PM
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i would like to have inputs on that subject..
is it worth it ?

wich type are good ?
what to avoid ?

expenriences ..??

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Old Feb 26, 2002 | 05:48 PM
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Spoon battery is really expensive..not so much the battery..but the moutning hardware.
I heard u can use motorcycle batteries, apparently some ppl use them in their NSX's and find them to have satisfactory use.

more suggestions?
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Old Feb 26, 2002 | 07:02 PM
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Odyssey drycells seem to be a good choice. Not for the thin of wallet though...
http://www.jegs.com/cgi-bin/ncommerc...534&prmenbr=76
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Old Feb 26, 2002 | 07:12 PM
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Gold wing GL1500 batteries turn over the car in warmer places. Colder ones i dont know if it has the crankingf amps. Anyways, if i remember, the Yuasa Battery for a GL1500 is YTX20-BS. So call a powersports shop and ask for it by name!!!
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Old Feb 27, 2002 | 06:41 AM
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wow 200$ ...lol

i knew that they were expensive but not that much
eheh

my father sells refurbished battery at his garage..they are like brand new and warranty for like 2 year i think..
they are mostly 30$ even for big ones..
ahahah

it's funny to compare prices with lighter one..
200$ is just out of price..
the motorcycle battery i am gonna check

i am in quebec so we have cold weather..but the car doesn't go out on winter neway ..

and i could always use a larger battery when the racing season is over and it starts to get cold ..


thanks for the input neway
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Old Feb 27, 2002 | 07:36 AM
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Could you think of more stupid things to drop money on in your car?

If you are in need of a battery replacement, get a battery that is sufficient for your car (in terms of cold cranking amps), is the right size, and has a good warranty. You dont spend alot of money, and it works. How hard is that? Batteries are heavy, sure, but whats the most weight you'll save? 20 pounds? That extra money could be well spent elsewhere. Besides, you'd have to figure out a way to securely mount a motorcycle battery or a dry cell battery in the battery tray, because the generic ones *will not* fit right - and bungee cords and zip ties are not acceptable - i've failed cars at tech for them at autocrosses.

Just out of curiousity... did you ever actually buy any suspension parts or alignment tools after all the questions?

argh.

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i would like to have inputs on that subject..
is it worth it ?

wich type are good ?
what to avoid ?

expenriences ..??

thanks
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Old Feb 27, 2002 | 07:45 AM
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Maybe if you're so worried about the weight of your battery, relocate it to the trunk to help out with weight distribution.
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Old Feb 27, 2002 | 08:30 AM
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>>Could you think of more stupid things to drop money on in your car?<<

Can't comment on this specific case, but 20 lbs is a LOT for some of us working within class rules sets. In my class (SM), a lightweight battery is allowed, therefore I will be installing one. Nothing exotic. Just a lawnmower battery with enough CA's to get the car going.

However, I don't think that was the point of your comment...
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Old Feb 27, 2002 | 08:38 AM
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Yes but in a lightly modified (fitting into DSP/STS) car carrying alot of mass (like the prelude in question) the 20lbs (maybe) on a car retaining full interior isnt going to make any difference. On a car where more extensive mods are allowed, then little things like these start to be beneficial for what you $pend on them.

But i see your point

>>Could you think of more stupid things to drop money on in your car?<<

Can't comment on this specific case, but 20 lbs is a LOT for some of us working within class rules sets. In my class (SM), a lightweight battery is allowed, therefore I will be installing one. Nothing exotic. Just a lawnmower battery with enough CA's to get the car going.

However, I don't think that was the point of your comment...
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Old Feb 27, 2002 | 08:49 AM
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Ryan, I see your point.. But the battery location on Preludes is right on the nose of the car, PAST the front axle.. By replacing that battery, and taking 20lbs of the nose of the car, makes a HUGE difference.. I know because I had my battery in my trunk, but had to move it back up front for the honda-challenge rules, car just didn't want to turn in as fast...

For those of you who use lawnmower batteries, what CCA are you using??
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Old Feb 27, 2002 | 09:48 AM
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I know several Nissan people who have to worry about batteries due to I/C piping up there. A popular option is a Miata battery - penty of power, reasonably priced, light weight.
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Old Feb 27, 2002 | 10:30 AM
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>>For those of you who use lawnmower batteries, what CCA are you using??<<

If I recall, the battery that came in my Civic (new) was rated at 300 CA's. But I'm thinking that a battery in the 200 CA range would be fine too. I haven't done enough research yet to know what's out there for lawnmower batteries.

It would be interesting to know how many more CA's are required per given amount of compression increase for those of us running shaved blocks, pistons, etc....

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Old Feb 27, 2002 | 02:00 PM
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Try a new miata battery. They are sealed, come with 4 year warrantees. My original one just crapped out like 2 months ago. It was in the car from 1990.....

$85, and safe to mount inside the cabin. (rear mount)

available here http://www.westcobattery.com/ Do NOT buy the one from the mazda dealer as they are different than the factory originals......

Best idea I have heard yet...

Spoon battery? WTF....what kind of tard would spend $200 on a battery? I dont understand some people.....
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Old Feb 27, 2002 | 02:08 PM
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The same people that spend $600 on a "hyper yellow" JUN valve cover..... or other exorbant items costing hundreds of dollars that offer no real performance benefit but are stamped with a Spoon, Mugen, Toda, or JUN label. Steering wheels... stickers... radiator caps.... brake pads..... the list goes on.

Spoon battery? WTF....what kind of tard would spend $200 on a battery? I dont understand some people.....
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Old Feb 27, 2002 | 02:33 PM
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haha. true true
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Old Feb 27, 2002 | 05:35 PM
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Dynabatt. Super light.
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Old Feb 27, 2002 | 10:13 PM
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Type-RJ : to answer ur always so kind comments/questions ..
http://cgi.ebay.com/ebaymotors/aw-cg...tem=1807618253

do you have a problem with society in general or something..always trying to down people that maybe don't have the same LIFE EXPERIENCE as u do ..

neway

thanks again for all the input guys

and yes..the battery on the prelude is really so far in front that a 20/30lbs there shows on the car.. jsut trying to see what can be done with the rules i have to follow
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Old Feb 27, 2002 | 11:12 PM
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Argh. I just dont like poor grammer, bad spelling and assinine questions. Also, i dont like it when people who have many years experience offer advice to a novice, and they brush it off. And i dont like people doing things half-assed. I dont know what kind of "life experience" you're speaking of. There are ALOT of people who know alot more about turning wrenches, driving, car setup, and cars in general than me - when they speak, i listen carefully. And i formulate my questions intelligently to make the most out of what i can learn. I have found this goes a very long way to furthering your own knowledge and goals.

As far as the camber gauge you bought - i thought you mentioned you had 16" wheels? Correct me if i am wrong, but the gauge fits 13-15" wheels. Do you know who makes this gauge? I cant seem to find it in the ad.... i wouldnt buy a gauge that demands accuracy like that unless i knew who made it and they had a proven product. Anyways, a gauge to set toe would be more useful on your car, as camber is non adjustable - its a set and forget kinda deal. A tire pyrometer is the tool you really need to use if you're trying to figure out whether or not suspension/tire/chassis modifications are using the contact patch most effectively. But i already said that twice already. I'll shut up now.

Ryan

do you have a problem with society in general or something..always trying to down people that maybe don't have the same LIFE EXPERIENCE as u do ..
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Old Feb 28, 2002 | 03:28 AM
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Well, back to the topic (batteries).

I know of several Celica folks that have put Honda Insight batteries into their car. They weigh next to nothing and are quite cheap at the Honda dealer (so they say). I'm going to look into one of these for my Celica.

I've also seen the new MR2 Spyder batteries and they appear to be pretty small.

Scott
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Old Feb 28, 2002 | 05:30 AM
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Just curious... are they easily secured in the battery tray? I know that on my saturn they wouldnt be, and on my rx7, they might be.... i wouldnt want to have my battery not tied down properly.

Ryan

Well, back to the topic (batteries).

I know of several Celica folks that have put Honda Insight batteries into their car. They weigh next to nothing and are quite cheap at the Honda dealer (so they say). I'm going to look into one of these for my Celica.

I've also seen the new MR2 Spyder batteries and they appear to be pretty small.

Scott
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Old Feb 28, 2002 | 08:29 AM
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why not just ad a piece of somekind of foam all around the battery in the holding tray to compensate..then u can secure it down like the normal size battery..

the gauge i purchased is the same that is on sale at i don't remember wich racing site... this is the only affordable gauge i could find and i talked to someone that has it and is using it on 17" wheel..
just need to use 1 metal bar to level it up ( depending on the wheel designs )

and my racing wheels are 15"..
street wheels are 16"

i want to get a camber gauge cause i can USE it from time to time u know..
like taking measurements.. and why couldn't i add adjustable camber parts to my car later on ..then i want to take readings on the prelude with stock settings for lot of different height and roll degrees to plot the camber changes of the suspension..
is there something wrong with that ? or do i have to absolutly use a pyrometer and nothing else?

and sorry for my grammar as i am not english so i don't know the correct spelling of each words in the dictionnary...make it of a lot of words

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Old Feb 28, 2002 | 08:31 AM
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insight battery ..mmm
that's a good idea
i'm pretty sure they've used a really lightweight design for that one since all the car was designed to be lightweight..
and usually Honda battery aren't really expensive from my experience..

i'll check that up!
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Old Feb 28, 2002 | 09:19 AM
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http://www.bakerprecision.com/battery.htm Light/cheap/used by many-230 CCA. Should work fine. HTH Kerry
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Old Feb 28, 2002 | 11:19 AM
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nice stuff...
i had seen that a while back..but didn't remember it was that cheap

that one seems good fro street use in normal car :

125 / PB34 500 CCA 23lbs $95.00
and that one :

125 / PB19 390CCA 15lbs $90.00

15lbs..that's pretty lightweight if u ask me


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Old Feb 28, 2002 | 11:31 AM
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I swear, the lawnmower batteries at walmart are 320cca, can't be over 20#, and cost 20$
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