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Old Sep 7, 2005 | 12:15 PM
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Default Sharing lanes in California

i know there has been some discussion on other threads regarding sharing lanes.
it seems as though nobody has a definite answer as to the legality of it.
i do know that when i took the DMV test the study guide said it was fine, but it did not go into specifics.


i have heard that it is legal if traffic is moving less than 45 mph.


what other people have "heard" through the grapevine differs.

what else have you "heard"?

does anyone have a definite answer on this?
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Old Sep 7, 2005 | 12:23 PM
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legal to 10 mph over the moving traffic speed, after that all bets are off
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Old Sep 7, 2005 | 12:24 PM
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at least thats what I have been told
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Old Sep 7, 2005 | 12:45 PM
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As far as I know, it's legal when done safely. Whatever the cop deems unsafe is illegal.
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Old Sep 7, 2005 | 12:55 PM
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<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote, originally posted by ScareyH22A &raquo;</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">As far as I know, it's legal when done safely. Whatever the cop deems unsafe is illegal. </TD></TR></TABLE>

haha, that is what's wrong with the system. putting too much authority in the officers hands. just like the exhaust laws. it all comes down to the officers good judgement and is not based on fact.
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Old Sep 7, 2005 | 03:28 PM
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I've followed a bike cop once before through traffic and pass by squad cars stopped in traffic all the time. Squad cars have even scooted aside to let me through.

A friend of mine said that if anyone were to hit you, no matter whos the party at fault, you take the blame, since its a do it "at your own risk" type of thing.

Take that for what its worth....
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Old Sep 7, 2005 | 03:36 PM
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Rather than discuss conjecture why not just look it up? I swear people rely on HT for everything.

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Lane splitting is where one vehicle drives side-by-side or passes using a lane occupied by another vehicle. It is legal in California for motorcycles to split lanes, but it creates a hazardous situation for both motorcyclists and drivers of other vehicles.


http://www.dmv.ca.gov/pubs/cur...t.pdf
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Old Sep 7, 2005 | 04:51 PM
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<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote, originally posted by Apocalypse &raquo;</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">Rather than discuss conjecture why not just look it up? I swear people rely on HT for everything.

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actually i find HT much more useful than google. mainly because i can find multiple people to do more varying searches than i would be able to do myself.
why do the work when you can have someone else do it for you?

i sincerely appreciate you taking the time to look this up for me.

and of course.......

thank you for teaching me a new word today.
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Old Sep 7, 2005 | 08:45 PM
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Heres some info: The reason it IS legal to do in Cali is so the cops can. We studied the case in a law class I took. The state supreme court ruled that it was all or nothing for the CHP, either everyone can do it or no one can. Gotta thank the cops for that one.
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Old Sep 8, 2005 | 09:27 AM
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<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote, originally posted by Apocalypse &raquo;</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">Rather than discuss conjecture why not just look it up? I swear people rely on HT for everything.

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Lane splitting is where one vehicle drives side-by-side or passes using a lane occupied by another vehicle. It is legal in California for motorcycles to split lanes, but it creates a hazardous situation for both motorcyclists and drivers of other vehicles.


http://www.dmv.ca.gov/pubs/cur...t.pdf</TD></TR></TABLE>

Can you split lane on a road thats only has 1 lane? For example, Laurel Canyon going towards Sunset Blvd has only 1 lane go down the street and 1 Lane going up.
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Old Sep 8, 2005 | 09:38 AM
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<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote, originally posted by trbo823 &raquo;</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">Can you split lane on a road thats only has 1 lane? For example, Laurel Canyon going towards Sunset Blvd has only 1 lane go down the street and 1 Lane going up.</TD></TR></TABLE>

They way the code is written, yes... but then again I don't live in CA. I suggest visiting CA's DMV website for clarification.
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Old Sep 8, 2005 | 03:49 PM
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You can share lanes with any vehicle that can fit......so yeah a one lane up and one lane down road is possible to share.....I love cali!
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Old Sep 8, 2005 | 04:35 PM
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What I want to know is if lane sharing is legal then why were the cops giving tickets at the MotoGP to those who were trying to share lanes?
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Old Sep 8, 2005 | 06:00 PM
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the problem i saw with the situation at MotoGP was that riders were sharing the lane of oncoming traffic.
as i sat in my cage i saw one accident and many close calls because of this.
in this case i do believe the cops were doing their job to promote safety.
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Old Sep 8, 2005 | 06:35 PM
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You can pass people, but it has to be on the right side and you cannot use the shoulder to pass/split lanes.


"Lane Sharing/Lane Splitting
Summary: Lane splitting is technically lane sharing. There is no law forbiding two vehicles from being side-by-side in the same lane as long as there is sufficient room. Lane sharing is supported by 21754(b) which states that you may pass on the right as long as there is sufficient room to do so and it can be done safely.

21754: The driver of a motor vehicle may overtake and pass to the right of another vehicle only under the following conditions:

(b) Upon a highway within a business or residence district with unobstructed pavement of sufficient width for two or more lines of moving vehicles in the direction of travel."



Modified by trbo823 at 7:50 PM 9/8/2005
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Old Sep 8, 2005 | 06:48 PM
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<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote, originally posted by MSchu &raquo;</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">legal to 10 mph over the moving traffic speed, after that all bets are off</TD></TR></TABLE>

There is no "Written" law about how fast you can split lanes in the vehicle code so its up to the CHP to judge if you are doing it safe or not. However, the CHP has this "Unwritten" law that you cant split lanes more than 10-15 mph above current traffic conditions. But again, those are CHP "Unwritten" law. Technically its not Illegal since there is no written law in the CA vehicle code.
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Old Sep 8, 2005 | 07:53 PM
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Never ever been pulled over for splitting. Just do the damn thing (but use your head).
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Old Sep 8, 2005 | 08:04 PM
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There is no "Written" law about how fast you can split lanes in the vehicle code so its up to the CHP to judge if you are doing it safe or not. However, the CHP has this "Unwritten" law that you cant split lanes more than 10-15 mph above current traffic conditions. But again, those are CHP "Unwritten" law. Technically its not Illegal since there is no written law in the CA vehicle code.

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technically it is illegal (above a given mph ceiling) because it can be considered unsafe for the conditions of the road/traffic.
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