Got hit by a car that was changing lanes
I was on the 22 West in Garden Grove on Beach, and I was doing about 70. (moving with the fow of traffic)
I was in the middle lane of a 3 lane highway, and the lane on the left started to slow down to 40 mph or so, so I played it safe and slowed down. As I was slowing down an old 60+ asain lady without looking decides to jump in my lane and share it with me, but by the time shes half way in and moving with the flow of traffic in her lane, she smacks my leg with the passenger car door and is just staring at me.
She slows down and gets back in her lane and I couldnt go anywhere cus theirs cars on both sides of my lane so I slowed down between traffic and split lanes to get away from her. Before I do though, shes waving at me as shes going back in her lane, like shes telling me its ok have my lane back.
It pisses me off to know that there are people on the road that dont pay attention to driving and can seriously hurt someone else.
Just thought Id post up my experience and let you guys/girls be careful out their with these drivers that dont pay attention.
I was in the middle lane of a 3 lane highway, and the lane on the left started to slow down to 40 mph or so, so I played it safe and slowed down. As I was slowing down an old 60+ asain lady without looking decides to jump in my lane and share it with me, but by the time shes half way in and moving with the flow of traffic in her lane, she smacks my leg with the passenger car door and is just staring at me.
She slows down and gets back in her lane and I couldnt go anywhere cus theirs cars on both sides of my lane so I slowed down between traffic and split lanes to get away from her. Before I do though, shes waving at me as shes going back in her lane, like shes telling me its ok have my lane back.
It pisses me off to know that there are people on the road that dont pay attention to driving and can seriously hurt someone else.
Just thought Id post up my experience and let you guys/girls be careful out their with these drivers that dont pay attention.
I have had my leg clipped before, kind scary, pissed me off..because I feel that even though the preson moved in on me.... I allowed myself to be in that oposition. 99% of the times, if you get hit, it is your fault. you need to be aware and use the throttle to move out of that position, I know that area well.
Schu
Schu
I couldnt move anywhere, their was cars infront of me, to the right, left of me, and if I slowed down I would of got hit, Cars were to close to split lanes so I had to take the hit, then slow down and split lanes...
That area just got a bunch of signals put in to even out the traffic between Trask and GG Blvd. Sucks pretty bad right there. And I feel you on the women drivers
, **** almost happened to me at least a couple of times, once even on the freeway.
, **** almost happened to me at least a couple of times, once even on the freeway.
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that is why I refrained from flaming... you know, you were there
we all live in about the same area
Modified by MSchu at 10:59 AM 9/6/2005
Any save is a good save
that is why I refrained from flaming... you know, you were there
we all live in about the same area
Modified by MSchu at 10:59 AM 9/6/2005
At least you're still here and posting man. That would have scared the **** out of me. I've had one day of riding for about an hour and had 2 different women come into my lane and almost knock me off the road. I didn't even get a "I'm sorry wave", just the old look that it was my fault for being in the lane the entire time and they didn't look before changing lanes.
phew, i'm so relieved that this didn't turn into a "i had a terrible accident" thread. You got off lucky.
I freaking hate idiot drivers that don't pay attention.
Just yesterday i had the same thing happen, i was going 37 in a 35 in the left lane of two. A guy in the front of the left turn lane decides he wants to go straight again and leaps out in front of me with his 4runner. I had to slam on the breaks (and the horn) to slow down and not hit him. If i had been speeding really bad i would of hit him. Then when i got up next to him, he wouldn't even look at me.
so pissed.
I freaking hate idiot drivers that don't pay attention.
Just yesterday i had the same thing happen, i was going 37 in a 35 in the left lane of two. A guy in the front of the left turn lane decides he wants to go straight again and leaps out in front of me with his 4runner. I had to slam on the breaks (and the horn) to slow down and not hit him. If i had been speeding really bad i would of hit him. Then when i got up next to him, he wouldn't even look at me.
so pissed.
Dam Aaron, good thing you're alright! I hate that f*cking freeway. Even though I have to commute through that freeway every single week, the construction make the commute even worse.
<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote, originally posted by MSchu »</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">I have had my leg clipped before, kind scary, pissed me off..because I feel that even though the preson moved in on me.... I allowed myself to be in that oposition. 99% of the times, if you get hit, it is your fault. you need to be aware and use the throttle to move out of that position, I know that area well.
Schu</TD></TR></TABLE>
Just wondering how its your fault when you get hit by somebody?
Im going to a deposition in about a month because the guy that made an illegal u-turn in front of me and hit me is saying(his Lawyers) its my fault. We'll he basically admitted to me that he didnt see me but his lawyers are saying its also my fault that i got hit. Doesnt make sense to me.
Schu</TD></TR></TABLE>
Just wondering how its your fault when you get hit by somebody?
Im going to a deposition in about a month because the guy that made an illegal u-turn in front of me and hit me is saying(his Lawyers) its my fault. We'll he basically admitted to me that he didnt see me but his lawyers are saying its also my fault that i got hit. Doesnt make sense to me.
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Just wondering how its your fault when you get hit by somebody?
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this is a newbie statment.
Just wondering how its your fault when you get hit by somebody?
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this is a newbie statment.
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<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote, originally posted by trbo823 »</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">Just wondering how its your fault when you get hit by somebody?
Im going to a deposition in about a month because the guy that made an illegal u-turn in front of me and hit me is saying(his Lawyers) its my fault. We'll he basically admitted to me that he didnt see me but his lawyers are saying its also my fault that i got hit. Doesnt make sense to me. </TD></TR></TABLE>
Don't want to put words in his mouth, but I think he's trying to say defensive driving can help avoid most accidents.
You know drivers have a hard time seeing bikes. You know drivers swerve in and out of lanes, especially when there are speed differences across the lanes (blocked lanes on highway, in/out of turn lanes, etc). Don't rely on drivers to see you - do your best to be visible and always have an exit strategy.
Obviously, sometimes drivers just do dumb **** and nothing can be done.
Im going to a deposition in about a month because the guy that made an illegal u-turn in front of me and hit me is saying(his Lawyers) its my fault. We'll he basically admitted to me that he didnt see me but his lawyers are saying its also my fault that i got hit. Doesnt make sense to me. </TD></TR></TABLE>
Don't want to put words in his mouth, but I think he's trying to say defensive driving can help avoid most accidents.
You know drivers have a hard time seeing bikes. You know drivers swerve in and out of lanes, especially when there are speed differences across the lanes (blocked lanes on highway, in/out of turn lanes, etc). Don't rely on drivers to see you - do your best to be visible and always have an exit strategy.
Obviously, sometimes drivers just do dumb **** and nothing can be done.
<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote, originally posted by Coach Crack Monkey »</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">
Don't want to put words in his mouth, but I think he's trying to say defensive driving can help avoid most accidents.
You know drivers have a hard time seeing bikes. You know drivers swerve in and out of lanes, especially when there are speed differences across the lanes (blocked lanes on highway, in/out of turn lanes, etc). Don't rely on drivers to see you - do your best to be visible and always have an exit strategy.
Obviously, sometimes drivers just do dumb **** and nothing can be done.</TD></TR></TABLE>
Could not have said it better myself. As a rider, it is OUR responsibility for our own saftey... no one elses. One needs to develope that sixth sense that is present in all sucessful road riders. Some have it and some could care less. The proper usage of throttle to manage the daily "situation" is a skill that can not really be taught, it can be learned, but not taught. you need time in the saddle. I know guys thta have ridden for 10 years and do not have that sense, and I try and avoid riding with those people... and I know guys that have ridden/driven for 2-3 years and I would trust them with my life. you need to be able to feel what the others, including the others in your group, are going to do even before they do it
Don't want to put words in his mouth, but I think he's trying to say defensive driving can help avoid most accidents.
You know drivers have a hard time seeing bikes. You know drivers swerve in and out of lanes, especially when there are speed differences across the lanes (blocked lanes on highway, in/out of turn lanes, etc). Don't rely on drivers to see you - do your best to be visible and always have an exit strategy.
Obviously, sometimes drivers just do dumb **** and nothing can be done.</TD></TR></TABLE>
Could not have said it better myself. As a rider, it is OUR responsibility for our own saftey... no one elses. One needs to develope that sixth sense that is present in all sucessful road riders. Some have it and some could care less. The proper usage of throttle to manage the daily "situation" is a skill that can not really be taught, it can be learned, but not taught. you need time in the saddle. I know guys thta have ridden for 10 years and do not have that sense, and I try and avoid riding with those people... and I know guys that have ridden/driven for 2-3 years and I would trust them with my life. you need to be able to feel what the others, including the others in your group, are going to do even before they do it
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this is a newbie statment.
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i have personally been in the situation as the cage driver. not every driver checks their blindspots before changing lanes. ever since i almost clipped a cyclist that was sharing lanes with me i always check and double check my blind spots.
as a cyclist sharing lanes you need to be aware of where these blindspots are for drivers and how to stay out of them. the other valuable lesson that you will learn with experience are the subtle head movements or other actions drivers make before changing lanes.
for your well being
this is a newbie statment.
</TD></TR></TABLE>i have personally been in the situation as the cage driver. not every driver checks their blindspots before changing lanes. ever since i almost clipped a cyclist that was sharing lanes with me i always check and double check my blind spots.
as a cyclist sharing lanes you need to be aware of where these blindspots are for drivers and how to stay out of them. the other valuable lesson that you will learn with experience are the subtle head movements or other actions drivers make before changing lanes.
for your well being
and one thing... the "Proper" use of throttle is not wacking it open, it can be something as subtle as rolling off ever so slightly, or.... Wacking it open
<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote, originally posted by integrator43 »</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">
i have personally been in the situation as the cage driver. not every driver checks their blindspots before changing lanes. ever since i almost clipped a cyclist that was sharing lanes with me i always check and double check my blind spots.
as a cyclist sharing lanes you need to be aware of where these blindspots are for drivers and how to stay out of them. the other valuable lesson that you will learn with experience are the subtle head movements or other actions drivers make before changing lanes.
for your well being</TD></TR></TABLE>
very well said
i have personally been in the situation as the cage driver. not every driver checks their blindspots before changing lanes. ever since i almost clipped a cyclist that was sharing lanes with me i always check and double check my blind spots.
as a cyclist sharing lanes you need to be aware of where these blindspots are for drivers and how to stay out of them. the other valuable lesson that you will learn with experience are the subtle head movements or other actions drivers make before changing lanes.
for your well being</TD></TR></TABLE>very well said
<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote, originally posted by Coach Crack Monkey »</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">
Don't want to put words in his mouth, but I think he's trying to say defensive driving can help avoid most accidents.
You know drivers have a hard time seeing bikes. You know drivers swerve in and out of lanes, especially when there are speed differences across the lanes (blocked lanes on highway, in/out of turn lanes, etc). Don't rely on drivers to see you - do your best to be visible and always have an exit strategy.
Obviously, sometimes drivers just do dumb **** and nothing can be done.</TD></TR></TABLE>
I was riding defensively. I saw him making his move and swerve to my right and honked my horn to try and avoid him and he still didnt stop until he finally made contact and hit me. If i hadnt swerved, he wouldve done more damage.
IMO, you can do all the defensive driving/riding but if the other person is not paying attention or making an ILLEGAL turn or what not, you cant really do anything about it and thats what this guy that hit me did.
Don't want to put words in his mouth, but I think he's trying to say defensive driving can help avoid most accidents.
You know drivers have a hard time seeing bikes. You know drivers swerve in and out of lanes, especially when there are speed differences across the lanes (blocked lanes on highway, in/out of turn lanes, etc). Don't rely on drivers to see you - do your best to be visible and always have an exit strategy.
Obviously, sometimes drivers just do dumb **** and nothing can be done.</TD></TR></TABLE>
I was riding defensively. I saw him making his move and swerve to my right and honked my horn to try and avoid him and he still didnt stop until he finally made contact and hit me. If i hadnt swerved, he wouldve done more damage.
IMO, you can do all the defensive driving/riding but if the other person is not paying attention or making an ILLEGAL turn or what not, you cant really do anything about it and thats what this guy that hit me did.
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you can do all the defensive driving/riding but if the other person is not paying attention or making an ILLEGAL turn or what not, you cant really do anything about it </TD></TR></TABLE>
Not sure I agree with this statement. you should actually be paying MORE attention to those that are not
you can do all the defensive driving/riding but if the other person is not paying attention or making an ILLEGAL turn or what not, you cant really do anything about it </TD></TR></TABLE>
Not sure I agree with this statement. you should actually be paying MORE attention to those that are not
I agree with you. But you can only do so much. You can were all your gear and be visible, ride defensively, etc, etc but if the other guy is not being a responsible driver then what else can you do.
People have gotten rear ended while waiting for a light to turn green or what not. Its not their fault that the dumb *** wasnt paying attention and rear ended them. You can be aware of whats going on around you but if the other guys not paying attention then how can it be our fault?
People have gotten rear ended while waiting for a light to turn green or what not. Its not their fault that the dumb *** wasnt paying attention and rear ended them. You can be aware of whats going on around you but if the other guys not paying attention then how can it be our fault?
I believe you guys are just arguing logistics at this point. Schu isn't saying that it's "your fault" from a legal standpoint, more that it is in fact something which is under your control.
I just had this discussion with a friend yesterday, attempting to explain that even the majority of accidents in which you are not at fault are avoidable. Many people do not possess the skill set to ride in such a way.
This is why I feel that the majority of people who ride motorcycles, shouldn't.... That's a conversation for another day though.
I just had this discussion with a friend yesterday, attempting to explain that even the majority of accidents in which you are not at fault are avoidable. Many people do not possess the skill set to ride in such a way.
This is why I feel that the majority of people who ride motorcycles, shouldn't.... That's a conversation for another day though.
<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote, originally posted by trbo823 »</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">I agree with you. But you can only do so much. You can were all your gear and be visible, ride defensively, etc, etc but if the other guy is not being a responsible driver then what else can you do.
People have gotten rear ended while waiting for a light to turn green or what not. Its not their fault that the dumb *** wasnt paying attention and rear ended them. You can be aware of whats going on around you but if the other guys not paying attention then how can it be our fault?</TD></TR></TABLE>
I think we're talking the same language here, but I guess fault is NOT the correct word... reposnibility might be. Even at the light, I am constantly watching the rear mirrors, ready to drop it into gear and put some space between me and that driver... this is being responsible. someone turning left in front of you when you can can clearly see that person is not attentive or looking right thru you.... I usually make it a point to cross intersections with left turners in on coming traffic, with other drivers going my way, safety in numbers. But when your numbers up, that it, best you go out and prepare yourself for that time
People have gotten rear ended while waiting for a light to turn green or what not. Its not their fault that the dumb *** wasnt paying attention and rear ended them. You can be aware of whats going on around you but if the other guys not paying attention then how can it be our fault?</TD></TR></TABLE>
I think we're talking the same language here, but I guess fault is NOT the correct word... reposnibility might be. Even at the light, I am constantly watching the rear mirrors, ready to drop it into gear and put some space between me and that driver... this is being responsible. someone turning left in front of you when you can can clearly see that person is not attentive or looking right thru you.... I usually make it a point to cross intersections with left turners in on coming traffic, with other drivers going my way, safety in numbers. But when your numbers up, that it, best you go out and prepare yourself for that time
glad you're okay - and you didnt sustain any damage!
that would really freak me out.
I don't trust any of the cars on the road, I'm constantly checking around me to see the situation I'm in. In my area people enjoy tailgating me, so I'm constantly checking behind my especially when I brake.
that would really freak me out.
I don't trust any of the cars on the road, I'm constantly checking around me to see the situation I'm in. In my area people enjoy tailgating me, so I'm constantly checking behind my especially when I brake.





