Basically this winter I will be installing some ITR cams, valve springs, retainers, intake manifold, and throttle body as well as an exhaust and intake an VAFC. I'm stuck on a header choice and I'm not even 100% sure its worth the money for a RMF or others over say a JDM header or something along those lines.

 

bump for the same question. all the header talk is usually for 1.8+ motors...

 

DC "JDM type-R"4-1, best bang for the buck. waaaay affordable, people always have good results with this header.

 

The customed headers I don't think will net you much gains unless your B16 is highly modified, ie. big cams, high CR, p&p etc.

 

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delete your post

what you "think" is wrong

 

Maybe I am wrong. . .if there is a consensus that I am indeed, I accept it.

 

this is a pretty good resource dealing with a failry stock bseries and header differences

http://bob123e.tripod.com/thegreatheadertest/

there are ones more specific to the b16 but there not as thorough

 

comming on a little strong there dont u think e9. He has the right to post that. On my b16 i wasn't too impressed with my new header. I personally believe what he does too. I think those headers are better suited for very aggressive b16's or 1.8+L. just my opinion.

 

Toda

 

i'm leaning towards toda right now as well...expensive though. Would type r cams be enough for the toda header or do I need something more aggresive?

 

<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote, originally posted by e9 &raquo;</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">this is a pretty good resource dealing with a failry stock bseries and header differences

http://bob123e.tripod.com/thegreatheadertest/

there are ones more specific to the b16 but there not as thorough</TD></TR></TABLE>

thanks for the link man, i'm just going to go with the jdm itr header for now.

 

correct me if im wrong, but shouldnt he go with 4-2-1 on the header?

 

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i wouldn't, look for the comparison graphs of the 4-1 vs 4-2-1 overlays on a b16 motor.

 

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Yea, but with a b16, you're going to have to sacrafice some HP for some TQ. I'm assuming thats why he mentioned the 4-2-1.

 

If your on a budget just go with a jdm dc sports header its a good header for the price. Me personally id go with a good header such as rmf or smsp.

 

i'm gonna have to go w/ cleanrice on this one and vote for the TODA header, it just does wonders on a b16 platform.

 

i think for your setup the toda, rmf and smsp are a little too much. i would stick with the type r header. not the dc type r but an actual type r. i have seen in a tpr magazine where they dyno test 10 different headers for the b16 and the dc didn't gain any hp and like 1 ft. lbs. stick with the oem parts. just my opinion though.

 

<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote, originally posted by sleeper-ek &raquo;</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">i think for your setup the toda, rmf and smsp are a little too much. i would stick with the type r header. not the dc type r but an actual type r. i have seen in a tpr magazine where they dyno test 10 different headers for the b16 and the dc didn't gain any hp and like 1 ft. lbs. stick with the oem parts. just my opinion though.</TD></TR></TABLE>

.: andy garcia voice :. "I know a guy" .: andy garcia voice :.

actually a stock ITR header makes less power and has more clearance issues that the DC sport header and may cost even more if you refer to the header link you will see untuned the dc makes 2 more peak.

please focus in on the word untuned - with all the boltons I have power on my motor peaked at 143.1 whp @ 7194 which is a mere 5 over stock however between there and 8500 rpm on stock cams power went up another 24.7whp @8500 with tuning and at all points increased and at some points like vtec activation which was moved from 5700 ish to 5200 ish tq was almost 20 lb ft higher with no drop off.

The one thing to consider as on my car is with that level of precision IE a solid 14.05:1 a/f ratio my stock fuel pump does not cut it and is being replaced.

When I put together the parts for my engine I spent a max of 1500 with tuning to see how much I might get. In retrospect since I bought the JDM DC's in stainless new I wished I had put the money toward smsp's header. While I like hytech's header I think it's outrageous they charge like 5K for there s2000 header so I would never buy from them and the only other 2 comparable headers I've had an AN-R and a Bisi make about the same gains but with less midrange and lower quality of construction

 

RMF makes a 4-1 for a B16 header, PM me for details or call ImportPowerHouse.com

SMSP to MY KNOWLEDGE does not make a B16 header, his are for 1.8l+motors. i would PM dave and see what his options are.

ANR i have seen make pretty decent numbers on a 1.6l.

I tested the sparks header on a STOCK internals b16, ctr cams, AEBS manifold, made 174whp. so the sparks did pretty well IMO. which is odd cause their header is based on an old SMSP header