rally x brake swaps
ok guys this related to the rallx civic. I was wondering what my brake swap options are, I is a 89 civic HB I need bigger brakes what are my choices and what is involved in each choice. Also any brake swaps have to fit under 15" wheel.
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This is traditional Rallycross...basically an autox in the dirt or some other kind staged rally?
Do you really need bigger brakes or just something that performs better?
My suggestion:
Porterfield R4-S pads...nice kevlar compound that performs way better then stock and lasts longer.
Standard Brembo rotors...good quality and cheap ($25 at https://honda-tech.com/zero...age=1 ).
Stainless steel braided lines...Goodridge, Russell whatever
Larger master cylinder...makes a huge difference in pedal feel. I find it much easier to modulate. The '89 Accord LXi is 15/16" and it bolts to the stock CRX brake booster.
Experiment with fluids for your needs. A good quality DOT4 is usually enough. Change it frequently and it should work for anything but extended lap sessions on a track. If you need something more you can look into high end DOT 5.1(not 5.0) stuff like Motul or ATE.
Do you really need bigger brakes or just something that performs better?
My suggestion:
Porterfield R4-S pads...nice kevlar compound that performs way better then stock and lasts longer.
Standard Brembo rotors...good quality and cheap ($25 at https://honda-tech.com/zero...age=1 ).
Stainless steel braided lines...Goodridge, Russell whatever
Larger master cylinder...makes a huge difference in pedal feel. I find it much easier to modulate. The '89 Accord LXi is 15/16" and it bolts to the stock CRX brake booster.
Experiment with fluids for your needs. A good quality DOT4 is usually enough. Change it frequently and it should work for anything but extended lap sessions on a track. If you need something more you can look into high end DOT 5.1(not 5.0) stuff like Motul or ATE.
already have good pads looking for bigger brakes getting fade with stocks
axxiss ultimates and stainless lines and motul fluid already on car
this car is used for rallyx (the autox kind) and is going to be used for staged rallys within six months so trying so set the car up good
am getting brake fade when testing car on friends ranch
axxiss ultimates and stainless lines and motul fluid already on car
this car is used for rallyx (the autox kind) and is going to be used for staged rallys within six months so trying so set the car up good
am getting brake fade when testing car on friends ranch
I'd figure out where the fade is coming from and address the culprit. Pad fade, fluid fade or to a lesser extent, green fade?
Or if you're sure a bigger set is the answer...
Fastbrakes:
http://fastbrakes.com/shop/pro...d=121
http://fastbrakes.com/shop/pro...d=102
You might also consider ducting a cool air source onto your brakes.
Or if you're sure a bigger set is the answer...
Fastbrakes:
http://fastbrakes.com/shop/pro...d=121
http://fastbrakes.com/shop/pro...d=102
You might also consider ducting a cool air source onto your brakes.
Rear Brakes: I have read that the stock drum brakes perform well and have very little fade, upgrade the shoes and pads(?) if you keep the drums. If you feel like it, you can swap over the disk brakes from the '90-'93 Acura Integras (brembo rotos and axxis pads)
Front Brakes: Also I suggest the 10.3" rotors from the '90-'93 Acura Integra. I highly suggest those 10.3" rotors. Why? I remember reading a thread where a guy had used various brake setups, and the 10.3" rotors were producing the best lap times. Obviously use brembo blank rotors and some racing compound brake pad.
And use SS brake lines.
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That sounds like a very good idea.
Front Brakes: Also I suggest the 10.3" rotors from the '90-'93 Acura Integra. I highly suggest those 10.3" rotors. Why? I remember reading a thread where a guy had used various brake setups, and the 10.3" rotors were producing the best lap times. Obviously use brembo blank rotors and some racing compound brake pad.
And use SS brake lines.
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That sounds like a very good idea.
I don't do very many Auto x events, but will be using the 90-93 non abs integra MC, 40/40 Prop valve, and brake booster, with GSR rears and front discs, plus steel braided brake lines. As far as pads i just use Hawks. Probably wont be needing any more stopping power from then on
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On stock calipers?
On stock calipers?
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Some people swap out the whole trailing arm, but like in my setup you I'm only removing the actual brakes themselves. Then you swap them on to your stock trailing arm, its pretty easy. I'm using the rears off of a 96 GSR, i think it shouldn't matter what year you get them from.
You can PM me if you have anymore ?'s
Some people swap out the whole trailing arm, but like in my setup you I'm only removing the actual brakes themselves. Then you swap them on to your stock trailing arm, its pretty easy. I'm using the rears off of a 96 GSR, i think it shouldn't matter what year you get them from.
You can PM me if you have anymore ?'s
Fade should not be an issue at a rally cross, just is not enough traction to really work the brakes all that much, especially if you're on a street tire.
Also if you're using the hand-brake a lot of people prefer the feel of the drum setup.
I personally like the ease of working on the rear disk setup, so all that is moot.
You can swap the CRX Si rear brakes, amongst many other options. Pretty straightforward swap.
Also if you're using the hand-brake a lot of people prefer the feel of the drum setup.
I personally like the ease of working on the rear disk setup, so all that is moot.
You can swap the CRX Si rear brakes, amongst many other options. Pretty straightforward swap.
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