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Old Aug 31, 2005 | 05:57 PM
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why would u wanna remove ur v-tech from your b-series motor
what is the point of the v-tech killer cams ? y not just get an Ls?
it5 doest show any dyno proven info or horse power gains or anything????

flame on if u want im just wondering what is the purpose?
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Old Aug 31, 2005 | 06:00 PM
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VTEC Killers in action:

http://www.we-todd-did-racing....5NTQx

For a race only motor with little need for idle or part-throttle driveability, the reduction in sprung mass from the valvetrain allows for an increased rev limit.
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Old Aug 31, 2005 | 06:00 PM
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KILL VTEC
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Old Aug 31, 2005 | 06:24 PM
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<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote, originally posted by BauleyCivic &raquo;</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">KILL VTEC </TD></TR></TABLE>

noway
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Old Aug 31, 2005 | 06:27 PM
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v-tech thats a good phone
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Old Aug 31, 2005 | 06:28 PM
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<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote, originally posted by sosleepy &raquo;</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">v-tech thats a good phone</TD></TR></TABLE>


yeah i have a orange one
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Old Aug 31, 2005 | 06:33 PM
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its not meant for people who need to prove stuff on the dyno. its a race only cam, designed for only high rpm output.

on a standard vtec cam, theres the normal lobe, and the vtec lobe? normal lobe for below ~5000rpm, and vtec for everything high? well this is high rpm only. so you dont need vtec.

i say, kill vtec [as long as its on the track]
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Old Aug 31, 2005 | 06:34 PM
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ive got a green vtech phone...
haha.

900mhz!
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Old Aug 31, 2005 | 06:38 PM
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I HAVE THIS SETUP FOR SALE!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

1150

retail is 1800 plus


only 1500 miles

selling because i no longer run a bseries race engine!
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Old Aug 31, 2005 | 06:39 PM
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made 226 hp and 158 tq on a b20 bottomend!!!! stock!!!!

compression was 12.5

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Old Aug 31, 2005 | 06:39 PM
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soooo..... kill the vtec when you are putting more hp down? please explain!!!!
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Old Aug 31, 2005 | 06:42 PM
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<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote, originally posted by gapergurlie_18 &raquo;</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">soooo..... kill the vtec when you are putting more hp down? please explain!!!!</TD></TR></TABLE>


<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote, originally posted by iaredavid &raquo;</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">its not meant for people who need to prove stuff on the dyno. its a race only cam, designed for only high rpm output.

on a standard vtec cam, theres the normal lobe, and the vtec lobe? normal lobe for below ~5000rpm, and vtec for everything high? well this is high rpm only. so you dont need vtec.

i say, kill vtec [as long as its on the track]</TD></TR></TABLE>


There's your answer. Reading comprehension(sp?) owns you
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Old Aug 31, 2005 | 06:44 PM
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longer duration cams.....

less ALOT less rotating mass in the cams....

makes more power....
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Old Aug 31, 2005 | 08:09 PM
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to my understanding is it really killing vtec???
i always thought it was more like vtec all the time..i remember a while while back a dc2-R from best motoring had a set up like that..and thats how they explained it.....it was on a lobby *** cam...basically vtec all the time
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Old Aug 31, 2005 | 08:14 PM
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<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote, originally posted by Viorent Grip! EG &raquo;</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">to my understanding is it really killing vtec???
i always thought it was more like vtec all the time..i remember a while while back a dc2-R from best motoring had a set up like that..and thats how they explained it.....it was on a lobby *** cam...basically vtec all the time</TD></TR></TABLE>

yes its killing vtec. there is no varible valves timing any more. its just going to a more aggressive cam.
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Old Aug 31, 2005 | 08:15 PM
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<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote, originally posted by Viorent Grip! EG &raquo;</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">to my understanding is it really killing vtec???
i always thought it was more like vtec all the time..i remember a while while back a dc2-R from best motoring had a set up like that..and thats how they explained it.....it was on a lobby *** cam...basically vtec all the time</TD></TR></TABLE>

you pretty much got it. it uses the same lift that VTEC uses while its engaged, but all the time. VTEC is really only to have a powerful econobox in the end...or else honda coulda just increased the cam lift permanently
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Old Aug 31, 2005 | 08:34 PM
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<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote, originally posted by eg94civic &raquo;</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">why would u wanna remove ur v-tech from your b-series motor
what is the point of the v-tech killer cams ? y not just get an Ls?
it5 doest show any dyno proven info or horse power gains or anything????
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When they're referring to "Vtec" in the ad, they're referring to the actual process, when Vtec is engaged, switching from the mild cam, to the more aggressive profile, in order to make more HP and torque.
In some race cars, this crossover isn't necessary, there's no need for it to pass smog like a street car, and a mild profile is not only useless, but a hindrance. For some race engine builders, the crossover can be an inconvenience during a race.
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Old Aug 31, 2005 | 08:39 PM
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True. And for like a drag race engine, the VTEC is really not needed, as its gonna run a full race cam, and I'm sure they dont care how it idles. Most dragster engines don't idle well, cause there meant to make high power up top.
Please note this is for RACE motors only, like full race, and for certain applications that MOST of us won't be using.
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Old Aug 31, 2005 | 09:26 PM
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<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote, originally posted by eg94civic &raquo;</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">just wondering what is the purpose (of killing VTEC)?</TD></TR></TABLE>

If you knew what the purpose of having VTEC is, then you wouldn't have to ask this question.
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Old Aug 31, 2005 | 09:30 PM
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<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote, originally posted by BauleyCivic &raquo;</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">KILL VTEC </TD></TR></TABLE>

No, it's KILL V-TECH

Damn mods think they know everything.
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Old Sep 1, 2005 | 04:06 AM
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crashn2u they no more then u lol u call vtec "V-TECH"

vtec=honda
V-TECH= phone

u just been owned
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Old Sep 1, 2005 | 04:27 AM
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I think I just killed a ****-ton of brain cells reading this whole thing. . . One question: What did V-Tech ever do to those cams? Why kill it? I don't get it. . . ughhh, my head.
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Old Sep 1, 2005 | 05:16 AM
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<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote, originally posted by crashN2u &raquo;</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">No, it's KILL V-TECH

Damn mods think they know everything. </TD></TR></TABLE>


<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote, originally posted by sosleepy &raquo;</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">crashn2u they no more then u lol u call vtec "V-TECH"

vtec=honda
V-TECH= phone

u just been owned </TD></TR></TABLE>


I think he meant to say that is a playful manor just joking around. So in this case You have been owned
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Old Sep 1, 2005 | 05:34 AM
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<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote, originally posted by R_star &raquo;</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">I think he meant to say that is a playful manor just joking around. So in this case You have been owned </TD></TR></TABLE>

Damn, you posted before I could finish reading.

Like the other people have said, the cam is a more aggressive cam w/ higher lift & longer duration (I think). They have a profile similar to a Honda VTEC cam profile when VTEC is engaged without using a solinoid or similar equiptment to engage it since race cars don't need a pretty idle, usually are not running below a normal VTEC engagement point, and I forgot my third reason.
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Old Sep 1, 2005 | 07:05 AM
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<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote, originally posted by crashN2u &raquo;</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">

No, it's KILL V-TECH

Damn mods think they know everything. </TD></TR></TABLE>

O RLY?

[OT owns you]
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