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Old Aug 29, 2005 | 09:12 AM
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Default maryland peeps. need your help.

i know this thread has nothing to do with any ITR stuff. but i know that some of you R owners are from Maryland. i was on my way down to Virginia over the weekend and was caught speeding. 75 in a 55. and was wondering how many points is that for you Maryland heads. and if its worth the 4 plus hour drive back down for court. thanks.
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Old Aug 29, 2005 | 09:13 AM
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Was it just speeding or does your ticket say wreckless driving? Can you prepay or do you have to go to court?
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Old Aug 29, 2005 | 09:16 AM
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just speeding. it was in Maryland. on rt 13 south.... at like 4am. the md state trooper just gave me a speeding tick. telling me to mail it in. just wanted to know the points and how many is it...
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Old Aug 29, 2005 | 09:26 AM
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Summary of Maryland Point Values for Convictions

1 Point
Any moving violation not listed below and not contributing to an accident.

2 Points
Speeding in excess of the posted speed limit by 10 miles an hour or more.
Following another vehicle to closely.
Failure to stop for school vehicle with alternately flashing lights.
Drop/throw/place trash/injurious substances on highway.
Driving with an improper class of license.

3 Points
Any moving violation contributing to an accident.
Driving after suspension for insurance termination, non-compliance with traffic citation or failure to pay fine.
Non?compliance with federal citation.
Transportation of Hazardous Materials.

4 Points
Reckless Driving.

5 Points
Speeding in excess of the posted speed limit by 30 miles an hour or more.
Driving while not licensed
Permitting unauthorized minor or other unauthorized person to drive.
Failure to report an accident.
Driving on a learner's permit unaccompanied.
Participating in a race or speed contest on the highways.
Operating an uninsured motor vehicle.
Operate motor vehicle with power booster or without required decal.

8 Points
Driving while under the influence of alcohol or drugs or combination of alcohol and drugs.
Turning off lights of a vehicle to avoid.
Failing to stop after accident resulting in damage to attended vehicle or property.
Failing to stop after accident resulting in damage to unattended vehicle or property.

12 Points
Failing to stop after an accident resulting in bodily injury or death.
Driving after refusal, suspension, cancellation, or revocation of license.
Fraud in application for driver's license or misuse of license to drive.
Homicide or assault committed by means of a vehicle.
Homicide by motor vehicle while intoxicated.
Driving while intoxicated or while under the influence of illegally used controlled dangerous substance.
Any felony involving use of a vehicle.
Fleeing or attempting to elude a police officer.
Display, cause or permit to be displayed, or have in his possession any cancelled, revoked, suspended, fictitious or altered license.
Display or represent as his own, the license of another.
Failure or refusal to surrender cancelled, revoked or suspended license .
Lending or borrowing a license.
The making of a false affidavit or statement under oath, to the administration under the Maryland Vehicle Law.

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Old Aug 29, 2005 | 10:03 AM
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Default Re: maryland peeps. need your help. (genetsang)

<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote, originally posted by genetsang &raquo;</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">i know this thread has nothing to do with any ITR stuff. but i know that some of you R owners are from Maryland. i was on my way down to Virginia over the weekend and was caught speeding. 75 in a 55. and was wondering how many points is that for you Maryland heads. and if its worth the 4 plus hour drive back down for court. thanks.</TD></TR></TABLE>
It doesn't matter how many points Maryland assigns if you don't have a Maryland drivers license. What matters is if your state shares this type of data with Maryland, and whether they will assign points to your license based on convictions in Maryland.
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Old Aug 29, 2005 | 10:18 AM
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<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote, originally posted by Ford Prefect &raquo;</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">
It doesn't matter how many points Maryland assigns if you don't have a Maryland drivers license. What matters is if your state shares this type of data with Maryland, and whether they will assign points to your license based on convictions in Maryland.</TD></TR></TABLE>

Exactly, my friend got a ticket in PA with a VA DL and the points were given to him. About 5 years ago another friend got a ticket in MD and only had to pay the fine no points were put onto his VA DL.
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Old Aug 29, 2005 | 10:26 AM
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thanks.
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Old Aug 29, 2005 | 10:29 AM
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<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote, originally posted by walker111 &raquo;</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">Exactly, my friend got a ticket in PA with a VA DL and the points were given to him. About 5 years ago another friend got a ticket in MD and only had to pay the fine no points were put onto his VA DL.</TD></TR></TABLE>
Also, the points are assigned based on the point system in YOUR state, not where you got the ticket, since all point systems can be different.

On the other hand, your insurance company doesn't care about points on your license, just about convictions, so your rates are likely to go up in any case.
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Old Aug 29, 2005 | 10:55 AM
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Since you are from Jersey, here is the Jersey Law.

39:5D-4 Moving violation out of state - 2 points

The National Driver License Compact ensures that out -of -state violations become part of your NJ driving record. Two points are assessed for each moving violation. Georgia, Massachusetts, Michigan, Tennessee and Wisconsin are not members.
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Old Aug 29, 2005 | 01:09 PM
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thanks, that was exactly what i was looking for. i know for some states, some points doesnt transfer over and some do. thanks.
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Old Aug 29, 2005 | 01:15 PM
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Default Re: maryland peeps. need your help. (genetsang)

If you go to court...

The Trooper will probably show - they book all the guy's tickets on the same day. You could try to have it changed (makes it a pain to show) but they usually just move you to his next day off.

If it's your first offence in the last couple years - they'll knock it down to 1 point (or maybe dismiss).

If he does show - plead guilty, and tell them you drove down (tell them how many miles, and maybe how much it cost you to drive down).
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Old Aug 29, 2005 | 01:21 PM
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<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote, originally posted by Tweakmeister &raquo;</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">If you go to court...

The Trooper will probably show - they book all the guy's tickets on the same day. You could try to have it changed (makes it a pain to show) but they usually just move you to his next day off.

If it's your first offence in the last couple years - they'll knock it down to 1 point (or maybe dismiss).

If he does show - plead guilty, and tell them you drove down (tell them how many miles, and maybe how much it cost you to drive down).</TD></TR></TABLE>
It doesn't look like it matters if he drives down, unless he can get a not guilty verdict (unlikely) or a PBJ, since as long as he is convicted he will get two points. A judge in Maryland cannot reduce the number of points NJ assigns.
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Old Aug 29, 2005 | 01:29 PM
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Good point - I was under the understanding that the points transferred 1-for-1.
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Old Aug 29, 2005 | 01:40 PM
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<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote, originally posted by Tweakmeister &raquo;</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">Good point - I was under the understanding that the points transferred 1-for-1.</TD></TR></TABLE>
No, like I said, the points systems in different states aren't equal, some might assign 1 point for speeding 9 miles over, while another might assign 2 or even 5, you can't just transfer points since they don't have the same meaning everywhere.

His best bet may just be to mail in a check, since his chances of getting out of points or insurance hikes are pretty slim.
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Old Aug 29, 2005 | 04:29 PM
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thanks for all the help. ill just suck it up.
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Old Aug 29, 2005 | 05:09 PM
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I got a ticket, probably the same jurisdiction, and it was $135 and 3 points for my first offense. I should have challenged it. I would say have the court date changed because you are out of town, then make the trip and hope smokey doesn't show.
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