Well its come a time, where i think it might be time to let her go...




Just dont have the time to enjoy the car anymore..Most of you know i built the car from scratch over the past 2 years...

Car is a 01 Integra type R with 18k on the chasis.. about 20 on the motor...

here are a few threads with some pics
http://www.montrealracing.com/...build
http://www.montrealracing.com/...10203

Mods are:
• UNDER THE HOOD
-B16A 2nd gen motor
-Equal length manifold
-Garrett GT30R
-Turbonetics 44mm wastegate
-Ferrea Stainless valves in. + ex.
-ARP headstuds
-Darton Sleeves complete , no insert
-Eagle H beam rods
-JE pistons 8.5:1 compression
-HKS head gasket
-Walbro 255 lph fuel pump
-TK race heads P&P StageIII
-GSR camshafts
-JG Edelbrock intake manifold
-Greddy 800 cc injectors
-AEM fuel reg, rail and filter.
-Spoon Sport Throttle body
-Custom Clutch kit by Embrayages ES
-Skunk 2 cam gears
-3 inch downpipe & exhaust
-Massive intercooler
-Turbo XS RFL blow off valve
-Resistor box(for injector low impedence)
-Msd ignition cap
-6 amp MSD ignition coil
-10.2mm MSD wire
-Obd1 conversion harness
-AEM EMS
-Fluidyne rad.
-Hight flow fal fan.
-3 bar map sensor.
-Euretane engine mounts
-K&n air filter
-Autometer boost gauge.
-Autometer pyrometer gauge.
-Autometer oil pressure gauge.
-Autometer air fuel ratio gauge
-Mugen valve cover
-JDM oil cap
-M motor was tuned by Chris Tapp at Tapp auto with the EMS system and the numbers where 479whp with C12 VP fuel at 25psi.

• EXTERIOR
-Complete inside and out PPG euro NHO painted by LEBREQUE
-JDM OEM metal front end

• WHEELS
-Fast Nitro 2 17'inch forged lightweight rims
-Nankang NS-1 205-40-17 tires

• SUSPENSION ET BRAKES
-AGX 5 way adjustable shocks
-Apex Springs

• INTERIOR
-JDM type R steering wheel
-JDM type R recaro Seats
-Mugen shift ****
-Mugen pedals
-Autometer gauges & guage pods,fuel/air,boost,pyro,oil pressure
-Necessary hardware needed to connect to laptop to datalog and tune

• ICE
-JVC Head Unit
-JVC 12 inch sub
-Kenwood amp


Car is absolutley flawless. no dents scratches, paint alone was 5gs.

The cost to build the car is in the 60k range since the motor set up alone is 45gs~....

Im open to trades but please dont waist my time on ridiculous offers,,, looking for somthing in the 34-38k range... CANADIAN PRICE...
Tyler

 

<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote, originally posted by ATgrills.com &raquo;</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">the motor set up alone is 45gs</TD></TR></TABLE>

How did you get that total?

 

38,000.00 CAD Canada Dollars = 31,682.51 USD
United States Dollars

In a million years I doubt that you would ever get an offer like that. Best of luck

 

<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote, originally posted by Bbasso &raquo;</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">38,000.00 CAD Canada Dollars = 31,682.51 USD
United States Dollars

In a million years I doubt that you would ever get an offer like that. Best of luck </TD></TR></TABLE>

I agree. One thing that people often have trouble realizing is that recovering the cost of work or modifications performed on a car when trying to sell it is basically impossible.

 

i know if i part the car out ill get 30 000CA... no doubt about it

motor set i mean everything, from clutch, block, aem ems, fuel set up, ignition, exhaust, ect.... believe me its over 40k

 

<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote, originally posted by ATgrills.com &raquo;</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">motor set i mean everything, from clutch, block, aem ems, fuel set up, ignition, exhaust, ect.... believe me its over 40k</TD></TR></TABLE>

Sorry, it's just that I've built an engine with forged internals, pieced together a turbo kit (with the aim of making more than 500 whp), along with the complete fuel system and engine management it's still not even close to $45k.

Care to add it up for prospective buyers?

 

As another ITR owner trying to sell a high powered R I can honestly say you will not see that kind of money for your car... Unless you find someone a mentally challanged person that just happens to have that kind of money. One of the things we as modified ITR owners must accept is the return is not as great as the profit, financially speaking that is. That is a bad *** car though...

 

<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote, originally posted by Reid &raquo;</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">

Sorry, it's just that I've built an engine with forged internals, pieced together a turbo kit (with the aim of making more than 500 whp), along with the complete fuel system and engine management it's still not even close to $45k.

Care to add it up for prospective buyers?</TD></TR></TABLE>


exactly.... this is a load of ****.. NO WAY that totals up to 45k. what are you adding labor cost's into it?

i have a completly built engine, BB turbo, external oil system, twin disc.. etc.. and its not over 20k.

im not trying to take away from the car, it looks damn nice, and you obviously have a ton of money and work into it, but lets be realistic. ask 25k for the car. and go from there.

 

keep in mind we are in canada where rods are 1200 and not 400 like you guys pay... the porting of the head was 3000$ alone,,,
obviously im calcuating everything with labour and tunnig....

I saw the bill of what the guy spent to build the engine... so im not trying to lie...
Ya he payed alot for some parts but regardless it was a SHITLOAD of money...

so you think im better off to put a stock b18c5 motor and sell the car for 21k CA and get my 10k for the motor set up?

that way ill get my 30+gs...

Tyler

 

I don't think you'll get your $30k no matter what you do.

 

Adding $10,000 to a $24,000 car does not make it a $34,000 car, it's still a $24,000 that has depreciated for the past five + years.

If you want to make you money back then your going to have to part each thing out and try to find a sucker for each thing.

I've had enough.

 

what happened to the stock ITR motor?

 

<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote, originally posted by Reid &raquo;</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">I don't think you'll get your $30k no matter what you do.</TD></TR></TABLE>

Agreed.

As already said, you'll never be able to recoup all your money invested regardless of how much you originally spent or how great the car is.

If you want to maximize dollars returned, put the car back to, or as close to stock and sell everything seperately.

Just ask Ed (Zygspeed) how hard it is to find a non flaking B.S. dreamer buyer for just a well setup proven turbo motor minus the car.

First it'll be hard to find someone to fork up $30k cash American or Canadian. And even harder for an interested younger guy to come up with it through a bank loan. Most banks (if not all) won't deal with values like that for a used/older car regardless of mods unless it's some sort of exotic or collectible/historical and even then it's a stretch, and a turbo R is by no means either.

 

you have a b16???

 

I hope others have spread some light on the unfortunate situation you will be encountering. You simply wont find someone willing to spend the $$$ that you want. As previously stated your best option at this point is to start piecing out your goodies. Best of luck with your situation

 

<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote, originally posted by KayOs &raquo;</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">what happened to the stock ITR motor?</TD></TR></TABLE>

 

I have a 641whp ITR and I wouldnt expect to get that much, fully built, JDM front, and all. I would be happy to get somewhere in the $24k range and take a big loss. I dont see how its possible to spend $45k on a motor setup, unless the guy got screwed big time like dummy. Nice car, but I doubt youll get what you want for it... Good Luck..

 

probably blew the hell out of it boosting too much. but what do i know..

ok seriously u cant think of it that way.. ok i got like full bolt ons on my car.. 2 sets of rims, coilovers, 2 intakes, 2 different types of ehx system combined together. .. so .let me see..

2001 type R brand new. 32800 + tax = 38400 or so..

+ i spend over 10 G..
bolt ons , window tint, cd headunit, alarm comes to like 12000 cad +

and i just bough all kinds of internal parts for my motor.

+ u dont have "clean" title for your R.. it's probably theif recovery titled.

so if u were me how much would u sell my car for?

i dun think i can get any higher than 18K USD


yeah. seriously.. how is the motor alone $$45000 ?? hellz. i'd go buy 1 spoon motor, 1 Toda race motor and 2 more stock B18C5 spare for that price and.. still have money leftover

 

<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote, originally posted by ATgrills.com &raquo;</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">motor set i mean everything, from clutch, block, aem ems, fuel set up, ignition, exhaust, ect.... believe me its over 40k</TD></TR></TABLE>

Thats great, if everything was brand new in the box piled next to the car you prob still wouldnt even get that.

Theres no way you'd EVER get more than the original freaking retail price unless Honda decided to churn out one last production line ITR and they gave it to you (which would be the dumbest choice ever ).

 

how is it not a true type R,, you want my VIN number you moron,,,, most people who build turbo engines dont use c5 blocks for many reasons,,,

Its a type R Head on a b16 block bored out to almost a 1.8 liter...

i dont see how you can say the car isint a real type R if it dosent have a stock type R motor....
such an ignorant thing to say...

looks like ill probably part it out and get my 21k for the car with a stock C5 and 13-14 for the complete motor set up....

that will get me my 30k CA....

Tyler

 

38,000.00 CAD Canada Dollars = 31,682.51 USD
OR A USED TT SUPRA.
BUT DAMN, GOOD LUCK WITH THE SELL MAN

 

Wasn't this one that was the PY shell that you rebuilt? Does it have a regular title or salvage title? You built the ITR motor with a JR charger, right? Then you traded it for the turbo'd B16? I'm just making sure I have the right car...Good luck with the sale but you would be better off selling all of the performance parts and returning it to as close to stock as possible. Good luck

 

<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote, originally posted by neo_ &raquo;</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">Why are you posting it in the ITR section?</TD></TR></TABLE>

because he has integra type r?

 

Ya Bradstard thats me... its was a VERY long build.. I promiss no one wil find a cleaner R,,, there 3 coats of clear under the carpet... you wont find any primer gray anywhere on this car like a stock car comes!

 

haha.. i like that!