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Old Feb 25, 2002 | 07:59 AM
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Why do I always feel better about turning right vs left? The tires and suspension just seem to go into a right turn feeling more confident. I can turn right at the car's limit. Turing left just don't feel the same. Is it me, in my head, or the car?

Civic with HR sports springs and Tokico shocks on 205/50/15.


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Old Feb 25, 2002 | 08:08 AM
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hmm..

I dunno...

I feel better turning left...

But thats probably because I also drive stock cars

Most road tracks that I driveon have more right turns.
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Old Feb 25, 2002 | 08:12 AM
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Most road tracks that I driveon have more right turns.
You think that's why I feel better about going into right turns? In fact, we make more right turns daily on the street compare to the left. Like an old shoe, once there is slight wear on it, it feels better walking on it. But if someone was to wear your shoes, it would be uncomfortable. Are suspensions like that too, you think?


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Old Feb 25, 2002 | 08:14 AM
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Have someone corner-balance your suspension.
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Old Feb 25, 2002 | 08:15 AM
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Have someone corner-balance your suspension.
What is that? Please explain.
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Old Feb 25, 2002 | 08:16 AM
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if you have to ask............
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Old Feb 25, 2002 | 08:21 AM
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Wait - do you have coilovers? If not nevermind what I said about corner balancing. You can't do it.

You could have it corner-weighted if you don't have coilovers.

So when you put your springs in did you cut them? If so you cut them unevenly and that could be your problem. Here are some other causes:

- Bad alignment
- Fucked up front suspension
- Bent frame
- different tire pressures right to left
- Having a big fat boyee in the right seat
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Old Feb 25, 2002 | 08:30 AM
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Actually, wouldn't having a boyee of some sort in the right seat actually serve to balance the weight of the driver on the left?
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Old Feb 25, 2002 | 08:30 AM
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Wait - do you have coilovers? If not nevermind what I said about corner balancing. You can't do it.

You could have it corner-weighted if you don't have coilovers.

So when you put your springs in did you cut them? If so you cut them unevenly and that could be your problem. Here are some other causes:

- Bad alignment
- Fucked up front suspension
- Bent frame
- different tire pressures right to left
- Having a big fat boyee in the right seat
Nope. Don't got coilovers, or cut springs. Car is in very good shape overall. Just HR sports right out of the box.

I'm leaning toward alignment. The shop that did the alignment first think my Civic was an Accord. That's what he wrote. I told him about it, and he said "oh...I'll tell the tech" but never corrected the paper work. The car doesn't pull to the left or right, so I trust that they did it right. That was 6 months ago, and only now I had the chance to push my daily driver and notice that it likes right turns better than the left.


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Old Feb 25, 2002 | 08:34 AM
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Alignment issues don't only cause the car to pull. If you have more negative camber on one side the car will have a tendency to turn in more forcefully on one side but not the other.

Chris - if the driver is 150# and the boyee is 280# the car will turn better to the right . . .
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Old Feb 25, 2002 | 01:27 PM
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are your shocks adjustable?

if they are .. are the set the same from side to side?
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Old Feb 25, 2002 | 01:41 PM
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Why do I always feel better about turning right vs left? The tires and suspension just seem to go into a right turn feeling more confident. I can turn right at the car's limit. Turing left just don't feel the same. Is it me, in my head, or the car?
I dunno... ever since Febuary 11, it's become more and more difficult for me to turn right with my car... I don't know what it is. I mean, it was just fine last month, but now every day it seems more left inclined...

I've also been thinking of trading in my SE-R for a Dodge Intrepid... They seem like pretty cool cars... They're RWD, right?

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Old Feb 25, 2002 | 01:54 PM
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I've also been thinking of trading in my SE-R for a Dodge Intrepid... They seem like pretty cool cars... They're RWD, right?
Some of them are RWD. They're pretty rare, though. In addition to RWD, Intrepids with option # 277227 also come with small-block V8s, no doors and stickers in place of the headlights and taillights.
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Old Feb 25, 2002 | 01:57 PM
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Some of them are RWD. They're pretty rare, though. In addition to RWD, Intrepids with option # 277227 also come with small-block V8s, no doors and stickers in place of the headlights and taillights.
I think I've heard of them things... Are they the ones that come with those augumatic tire rotaters? The ones that'll do it in 17.62 seconds?
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Old Feb 25, 2002 | 02:25 PM
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Could be as simple as not having a race seat. Turn right=braced on the door panel. Turn left=nothing to brace against.
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Old Feb 25, 2002 | 10:23 PM
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Default Re: Turn let vs right (YipMan_Style)

here's my theory. on two lane mountain roads, we drive on the right hand side... assuming you don't cross over to the other lane, on right hand turns you have another lane for run off. but on left hand turns you will run out of road.

it subconciously carries on to the track.

another reason is when making right hand turns usually you have nice full view. on left the A pillar might block some of the view.
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Old Feb 26, 2002 | 06:43 AM
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Some of them are RWD. They're pretty rare, though. In addition to RWD, Intrepids with option # 277227 also come with small-block V8s, no doors and stickers in place of the headlights and taillights.

I think I've heard of them things... Are they the ones that come with those augumatic tire rotaters? The ones that'll do it in 17.62 seconds?

Yeah... they turn Left REALLY welll....

buy you will be very uncomfortable turning right in them

maybe you should get a right hand drive civic.... Real JDM!!!


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Old Feb 26, 2002 | 08:19 AM
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Default Re: Turn let vs right (Crazydave)

Check out this month's SCC. Their project Civic just got it's new suspension and wheels and guess what it's turned considerably better one way than the other too. (.93 g vs . 87g). They suggested looking over the suspension for loose or worn bushings, bent suspension pieces, and corner weighting the car to correct the handling imbalance.
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Old Feb 26, 2002 | 10:05 AM
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Default Re: Turn let vs right (Crazydave)

are your shocks adjustable?

if they are .. are the set the same from side to side?
Nope.
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Old Feb 26, 2002 | 10:08 AM
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here's my theory. on two lane mountain roads, we drive on the right hand side... assuming you don't cross over to the other lane, on right hand turns you have another lane for run off. but on left hand turns you will run out of road.

it subconciously carries on to the track.

another reason is when making right hand turns usually you have nice full view. on left the A pillar might block some of the view.
That may be a factor too. I can kiss the edge on right turns because I can see better, therefore go in strong. Where as on the left, I have to sort of guess where my wheels are. On that part, it's my rookie skill.
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