Fabbing an exhaust cutout w/ a throttle body
Just wondering if anyone has tried it out. i was thinking of using a 3" domestic tb instead of those electric ones that always break. Do you guys think it'll hold the exhaust pressure ok when it's closed?
Well they hold boost pressure on turbocharged cars without much problems and thats way more than your exhaust pressure is gonna be.
<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote, originally posted by cstay »</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">but your intake isint over 1000 degrees</TD></TR></TABLE>
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<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote, originally posted by Flashmn »</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">Well they hold boost pressure on turbocharged cars without much problems and thats way more than your exhaust pressure is gonna be.</TD></TR></TABLE>
yeah i guess so
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true, but i'll try to put it down stream more so it's not as hot.....full-race geoff uses an aluminum catback so i think it should hold up.
yeah i guess so
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true, but i'll try to put it down stream more so it's not as hot.....full-race geoff uses an aluminum catback so i think it should hold up.
acually it holds up the heat perfectly well. i tried it with a Nissan 240 tb on my hatch and put it between the block and radiator, it held the exhaust in when closed,no leaks and i had it in there for about 5 months with no problems
i say go for it
i say go for it
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Lol at aluminum not holding heat....how did anyone come to that conclusion?? HAHAIt will hold up fine...do it...I want to see it! LOL
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some one over on sr20forums runs a tb cutout (NA application though)...bunch of pics and a vid in this thread
http://www.sr20forum.com/showt...utout
http://www.sr20forum.com/showt...utout
i wanted to do one with this d16z tb i have but it has several holes in it that would leak the exhaust fumes around the throttle plate,anybody know of any cars with oem tbs with no extra holes to leak exhaust gas past the throttle plate?
awesome, i'll def trying this out
Do you guys know of any 3" TB's that don't have the holes like people were saying?? If not i'll just zap the holes w/ the mig welder lol
Do you guys know of any 3" TB's that don't have the holes like people were saying?? If not i'll just zap the holes w/ the mig welder lol
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Do you guys know of any 3" TB's that don't have the holes like people were saying?? If not i'll just zap the holes w/ the mig welder lol</TD></TR></TABLE>
yeah zap that Al. do you have a spool gun and pure Ar?
Do you guys know of any 3" TB's that don't have the holes like people were saying?? If not i'll just zap the holes w/ the mig welder lol</TD></TR></TABLE>yeah zap that Al. do you have a spool gun and pure Ar?
<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote, originally posted by Flashmn »</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">Well they hold boost pressure on turbocharged cars without much problems and thats way more than your exhaust pressure is gonna be.</TD></TR></TABLE>
but boost isnt realized when the tb is closed.
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true, but i'll try to put it down stream more so it's not as hot.....full-race geoff uses an aluminum catback so i think it should hold up.</TD></TR></TABLE>
there is no doubt a al tb will hold up. BUT not all the operating parts inside of tb's are al. you have spacers, gaskets, springs, etc. things that a prone to heat warping and cracking with the rapid heat up and cool down process w/ boosted cars AND the rapid heat up and cool down of al. then again the tb cutout will be under the car where airflow will be high..as far as placing the tb downstream more. you dont wanna lose the effect the tb gives. you want it placed where the exhuast heat begins to "cool" so that your down pipe and its "dump" will be efficient.
ps. i have never ever EVER talked to someone with an e-cutout that hasnt had problems. be it electric or manual.
but boost isnt realized when the tb is closed.
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true, but i'll try to put it down stream more so it's not as hot.....full-race geoff uses an aluminum catback so i think it should hold up.</TD></TR></TABLE>
there is no doubt a al tb will hold up. BUT not all the operating parts inside of tb's are al. you have spacers, gaskets, springs, etc. things that a prone to heat warping and cracking with the rapid heat up and cool down process w/ boosted cars AND the rapid heat up and cool down of al. then again the tb cutout will be under the car where airflow will be high..as far as placing the tb downstream more. you dont wanna lose the effect the tb gives. you want it placed where the exhuast heat begins to "cool" so that your down pipe and its "dump" will be efficient.
ps. i have never ever EVER talked to someone with an e-cutout that hasnt had problems. be it electric or manual.
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When you let off the gas from a full throttle run there is.
When you let off the gas from a full throttle run there is.
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but boost isnt realized when the tb is closed.
When you let off the gas from a full throttle run there is.</TD></TR></TABLE>
Right....and on cars without dump/blow off valves, pressure has to stall the turbine, go the other way and that takes fairly long to happen... (oh and I know its not good, people still do it)
but boost isnt realized when the tb is closed.
When you let off the gas from a full throttle run there is.</TD></TR></TABLE>
Right....and on cars without dump/blow off valves, pressure has to stall the turbine, go the other way and that takes fairly long to happen... (oh and I know its not good, people still do it)
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but boost isnt realized when the tb is closed.
there is no doubt a al tb will hold up. BUT not all the operating parts inside of tb's are al. you have spacers, gaskets, springs, etc. things that a prone to heat warping and cracking with the rapid heat up and cool down process w/ boosted cars AND the rapid heat up and cool down of al. then again the tb cutout will be under the car where airflow will be high..as far as placing the tb downstream more. you dont wanna lose the effect the tb gives. you want it placed where the exhuast heat begins to "cool" so that your down pipe and its "dump" will be efficient.
ps. i have never ever EVER talked to someone with an e-cutout that hasnt had problems. be it electric or manual.
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Yes the plastic spacers and washers and seals can melt. I pulled mine apart and removed all of the plastic. Sorry people, forgot to mention that.
but boost isnt realized when the tb is closed.
there is no doubt a al tb will hold up. BUT not all the operating parts inside of tb's are al. you have spacers, gaskets, springs, etc. things that a prone to heat warping and cracking with the rapid heat up and cool down process w/ boosted cars AND the rapid heat up and cool down of al. then again the tb cutout will be under the car where airflow will be high..as far as placing the tb downstream more. you dont wanna lose the effect the tb gives. you want it placed where the exhuast heat begins to "cool" so that your down pipe and its "dump" will be efficient.
ps. i have never ever EVER talked to someone with an e-cutout that hasnt had problems. be it electric or manual.
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Yes the plastic spacers and washers and seals can melt. I pulled mine apart and removed all of the plastic. Sorry people, forgot to mention that.
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Yes the plastic spacers and washers and seals can melt. I pulled mine apart and removed all of the plastic. Sorry people, forgot to mention that.
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yup i'll def do that....btw how big is the dsm tb??
Yes the plastic spacers and washers and seals can melt. I pulled mine apart and removed all of the plastic. Sorry people, forgot to mention that.
</TD></TR></TABLE>yup i'll def do that....btw how big is the dsm tb??
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ps. i have never ever EVER talked to someone with an e-cutout that hasnt had problems. be it electric or manual.
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i've been running a Quicktime cutout for about a year and a half with no problems yet.also installed a couple on people's cars with no problems.
Chris
ps. i have never ever EVER talked to someone with an e-cutout that hasnt had problems. be it electric or manual.
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i've been running a Quicktime cutout for about a year and a half with no problems yet.also installed a couple on people's cars with no problems.
Chris
butterfly type valves assemblies have been used in the turbo industry for a while with out a problem. these arent AL though. only thing is that the valves im referring too are used to impede flow and or raise exh mani pressure not the other way around....and they are $$$


