Fabbing an exhaust cutout w/ a throttle body

Thread Tools
 
Search this Thread
 
Old Aug 26, 2005 | 01:15 PM
  #1  
B18Flip's Avatar
Thread Starter
Honda-Tech Member
 
Joined: Aug 2002
Posts: 3,910
Likes: 0
From: Somewhere in, CT, USA
Default Fabbing an exhaust cutout w/ a throttle body

Just wondering if anyone has tried it out. i was thinking of using a 3" domestic tb instead of those electric ones that always break. Do you guys think it'll hold the exhaust pressure ok when it's closed?
Reply
Old Aug 26, 2005 | 04:06 PM
  #2  
Flashmn's Avatar
Honda-Tech Member
 
Joined: Feb 2005
Posts: 1,364
Likes: 0
From: Heinola, Finland
Default Re: Fabbing an exhaust cutout w/ a throttle body (B18Flip)

Well they hold boost pressure on turbocharged cars without much problems and thats way more than your exhaust pressure is gonna be.
Reply
Old Aug 26, 2005 | 04:26 PM
  #3  
cstay's Avatar
 
Joined: Jun 2003
Posts: 675
Likes: 0
From: plattsurgh, ny, usa
Default Re: Fabbing an exhaust cutout w/ a throttle body (Flashmn)

but your intake isint over 1000 degrees
Reply
Old Aug 26, 2005 | 06:48 PM
  #4  
E-Rok's Avatar
EPIC TUNING
 
Joined: Sep 2002
Posts: 10,285
Likes: 0
From: WA
Default Re: Fabbing an exhaust cutout w/ a throttle body (cstay)

<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote, originally posted by cstay &raquo;</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">but your intake isint over 1000 degrees</TD></TR></TABLE>

ding ding ding

U need steel y0
Reply
Old Aug 26, 2005 | 07:34 PM
  #5  
B18Flip's Avatar
Thread Starter
Honda-Tech Member
 
Joined: Aug 2002
Posts: 3,910
Likes: 0
From: Somewhere in, CT, USA
Default Re: Fabbing an exhaust cutout w/ a throttle body (Flashmn)

<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote, originally posted by Flashmn &raquo;</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">Well they hold boost pressure on turbocharged cars without much problems and thats way more than your exhaust pressure is gonna be.</TD></TR></TABLE>

yeah i guess so

<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote, originally posted by cstay &raquo;</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">but your intake isint over 1000 degrees</TD></TR></TABLE>

true, but i'll try to put it down stream more so it's not as hot.....full-race geoff uses an aluminum catback so i think it should hold up.
Reply
Old Aug 26, 2005 | 10:27 PM
  #6  
h kid's Avatar
Junior Member
 
Joined: Feb 2005
Posts: 547
Likes: 0
From: hatch city, ca, usa
Default Re: Fabbing an exhaust cutout w/ a throttle body (B18Flip)

acually it holds up the heat perfectly well. i tried it with a Nissan 240 tb on my hatch and put it between the block and radiator, it held the exhaust in when closed,no leaks and i had it in there for about 5 months with no problems i say go for it
Reply
Old Aug 27, 2005 | 08:13 AM
  #7  
Blaze45's Avatar
Brrraaaap!
 
Joined: May 2002
Posts: 3,950
Likes: 3
From: AZ
Default Re: Fabbing an exhaust cutout w/ a throttle body (h kid)

The DMH electric ones have a 4 year warrenty on the entire unit. It'd have to be a pretty big TB to flow what you'd like anyways.

Blaze
Reply
Old Aug 27, 2005 | 08:21 AM
  #8  
blueoval557's Avatar
Junior Member
 
Joined: Jul 2004
Posts: 520
Likes: 1
From: Sacramento, CA, USA
Default Re: Fabbing an exhaust cutout w/ a throttle body (Blaze45)

Lol at aluminum not holding heat....how did anyone come to that conclusion?? HAHAIt will hold up fine...do it...I want to see it! LOL
Kyle
Reply
Old Aug 27, 2005 | 01:57 PM
  #9  
Full-Race Javier's Avatar
Member
 
Joined: Jun 2002
Posts: 1,148
Likes: 0
From: Hot Hot Heat, AZ
Default

some one over on sr20forums runs a tb cutout (NA application though)...bunch of pics and a vid in this thread

http://www.sr20forum.com/showt...utout

Reply
Old Aug 27, 2005 | 06:05 PM
  #10  
ccfab's Avatar
 
Joined: Jul 2005
Posts: 778
Likes: 0
From: somewhere in, ct
Default Re: (Full-Race Javier)

its doable,
Reply
Old Aug 27, 2005 | 06:16 PM
  #11  
B18Flip's Avatar
Thread Starter
Honda-Tech Member
 
Joined: Aug 2002
Posts: 3,910
Likes: 0
From: Somewhere in, CT, USA
Default Re: (Full-Race Javier)

ahh perfect! that's what i need
Reply
Old Aug 27, 2005 | 06:48 PM
  #12  
shortyz21's Avatar
Honda-Tech Member
 
Joined: Aug 2005
Posts: 969
Likes: 0
From: abbotsford, bc, canada
Default Re: (B18Flip)

yeah then just use a string in the cab to pull it


hahahah this is HMT all the way. keep us updated!
Reply
Old Aug 27, 2005 | 07:18 PM
  #13  
buckfittyone's Avatar
 
Joined: May 2002
Posts: 225
Likes: 0
Default Re: (shortyz21)

i wanted to do one with this d16z tb i have but it has several holes in it that would leak the exhaust fumes around the throttle plate,anybody know of any cars with oem tbs with no extra holes to leak exhaust gas past the throttle plate?
Reply
Old Aug 27, 2005 | 07:22 PM
  #14  
snowseeker's Avatar
Honda-Tech Member
 
Joined: Sep 2002
Posts: 2,940
Likes: 0
From: stevens point, WI, 54481
Default Re: (buckfittyone)

I have one on my car. I used a dsm throttle body.
Reply
Old Aug 27, 2005 | 11:12 PM
  #15  
B18Flip's Avatar
Thread Starter
Honda-Tech Member
 
Joined: Aug 2002
Posts: 3,910
Likes: 0
From: Somewhere in, CT, USA
Default Re: (snowseeker)

awesome, i'll def trying this out Do you guys know of any 3" TB's that don't have the holes like people were saying?? If not i'll just zap the holes w/ the mig welder lol
Reply
Old Aug 28, 2005 | 09:29 AM
  #16  
dfoxengr's Avatar
 
Joined: May 2002
Posts: 3
Likes: 1
From: banned NC
Default Re: (B18Flip)

<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote, originally posted by B18Flip &raquo;</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">awesome, i'll def trying this out Do you guys know of any 3" TB's that don't have the holes like people were saying?? If not i'll just zap the holes w/ the mig welder lol</TD></TR></TABLE>

yeah zap that Al. do you have a spool gun and pure Ar?
Reply
Old Aug 28, 2005 | 12:03 PM
  #17  
turbotommy's Avatar
Honda-Tech Member
 
Joined: Dec 2003
Posts: 967
Likes: 0
From: Tempe, AZ, usa
Default Re: (dfoxengr)

<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote, originally posted by Flashmn &raquo;</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">Well they hold boost pressure on turbocharged cars without much problems and thats way more than your exhaust pressure is gonna be.</TD></TR></TABLE>

but boost isnt realized when the tb is closed.

<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote, originally posted by B18Flip &raquo;</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">
true, but i'll try to put it down stream more so it's not as hot.....full-race geoff uses an aluminum catback so i think it should hold up.</TD></TR></TABLE>

there is no doubt a al tb will hold up. BUT not all the operating parts inside of tb's are al. you have spacers, gaskets, springs, etc. things that a prone to heat warping and cracking with the rapid heat up and cool down process w/ boosted cars AND the rapid heat up and cool down of al. then again the tb cutout will be under the car where airflow will be high..as far as placing the tb downstream more. you dont wanna lose the effect the tb gives. you want it placed where the exhuast heat begins to "cool" so that your down pipe and its "dump" will be efficient.

ps. i have never ever EVER talked to someone with an e-cutout that hasnt had problems. be it electric or manual.

Reply
Old Aug 28, 2005 | 12:20 PM
  #18  
k24em2's Avatar
Honda-Tech Member
 
Joined: Apr 2005
Posts: 1,895
Likes: 0
From: Lincoln, Ne, USA
Default Re: (turbotommy)

<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote, originally posted by turbotommy &raquo;</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">but boost isnt realized when the tb is closed. </TD></TR></TABLE>

When you let off the gas from a full throttle run there is.
Reply
Old Aug 28, 2005 | 12:40 PM
  #19  
B18Flip's Avatar
Thread Starter
Honda-Tech Member
 
Joined: Aug 2002
Posts: 3,910
Likes: 0
From: Somewhere in, CT, USA
Default Re: (k24em2)

eh i'm going to try it out, it seems that it has worked out for the people who have tried it
Reply
Old Aug 28, 2005 | 01:39 PM
  #20  
Flashmn's Avatar
Honda-Tech Member
 
Joined: Feb 2005
Posts: 1,364
Likes: 0
From: Heinola, Finland
Default Re: (k24em2)

<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote &raquo;</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">Quote, originally posted by turbotommy »
but boost isnt realized when the tb is closed.

When you let off the gas from a full throttle run there is.</TD></TR></TABLE>
Right....and on cars without dump/blow off valves, pressure has to stall the turbine, go the other way and that takes fairly long to happen... (oh and I know its not good, people still do it)
Reply
Old Aug 28, 2005 | 02:48 PM
  #21  
snowseeker's Avatar
Honda-Tech Member
 
Joined: Sep 2002
Posts: 2,940
Likes: 0
From: stevens point, WI, 54481
Default Re: (turbotommy)

<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote, originally posted by turbotommy &raquo;</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">

but boost isnt realized when the tb is closed.

there is no doubt a al tb will hold up. BUT not all the operating parts inside of tb's are al. you have spacers, gaskets, springs, etc. things that a prone to heat warping and cracking with the rapid heat up and cool down process w/ boosted cars AND the rapid heat up and cool down of al. then again the tb cutout will be under the car where airflow will be high..as far as placing the tb downstream more. you dont wanna lose the effect the tb gives. you want it placed where the exhuast heat begins to "cool" so that your down pipe and its "dump" will be efficient.

ps. i have never ever EVER talked to someone with an e-cutout that hasnt had problems. be it electric or manual.

</TD></TR></TABLE>

Yes the plastic spacers and washers and seals can melt. I pulled mine apart and removed all of the plastic. Sorry people, forgot to mention that.
Reply
Old Aug 28, 2005 | 05:50 PM
  #22  
B18Flip's Avatar
Thread Starter
Honda-Tech Member
 
Joined: Aug 2002
Posts: 3,910
Likes: 0
From: Somewhere in, CT, USA
Default Re: (snowseeker)

<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote, originally posted by snowseeker &raquo;</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">

Yes the plastic spacers and washers and seals can melt. I pulled mine apart and removed all of the plastic. Sorry people, forgot to mention that. </TD></TR></TABLE>

yup i'll def do that....btw how big is the dsm tb??
Reply
Old Aug 29, 2005 | 10:11 AM
  #23  
TeamNextGenChris's Avatar
Honda-Tech Member
 
Joined: Oct 2003
Posts: 4,012
Likes: 1
From: Roanoke A.K.A. Redneckville,VA
Default Re: (turbotommy)

<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote, originally posted by turbotommy &raquo;</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">


ps. i have never ever EVER talked to someone with an e-cutout that hasnt had problems. be it electric or manual.

</TD></TR></TABLE>
i've been running a Quicktime cutout for about a year and a half with no problems yet.also installed a couple on people's cars with no problems.
Chris
Reply
Old Aug 29, 2005 | 06:37 PM
  #24  
rhd's Avatar
rhd
 
Joined: Nov 2004
Posts: 1,872
Likes: 0
From: 03 Sedona WRX
Default

joey davis has been talking about doing this forever...he's had the t/b for a long time....i've always been interested in doing it...if he can get it to work alright
Reply
Old Aug 29, 2005 | 08:00 PM
  #25  
Full-Race Javier's Avatar
Member
 
Joined: Jun 2002
Posts: 1,148
Likes: 0
From: Hot Hot Heat, AZ
Default

butterfly type valves assemblies have been used in the turbo industry for a while with out a problem. these arent AL though. only thing is that the valves im referring too are used to impede flow and or raise exh mani pressure not the other way around....and they are $$$

Reply



All times are GMT -8. The time now is 10:24 PM.