Do people with Zeal Coilovers think their worth the money, and would they be good for a auto-x'd/DD car?

 

Yes they are definitely worth the money. Once you have a set, you'll know what I mean. I know a number of people who use ZEAL coilovers for auto-X... just get custom spring rates. I have the b6 and they are phenomenal even on the street.

 

my friends with ZEALS recommended Konis with custom GC's

 

Agreed. GCs w/ Koni yellows are also a good option, and cheaper.

 

they are not B6 in the pic. they are function..way better than the B6 and it's full adjustable ride heigh and alumium body

 

No, I took that picture of my set of Function B6 coilovers. I thought about getting the Function S6 with the aluminum body, but decided that the roads in my area are pretty harsh and the aluminum might not hold up as well as the chromoly steel. The nice thing about the Function series is that both the B6 and S6 have an adjustable lower cup as well to allow very low ride heights without sacrificing suspension travel. The only difference between the S6 and the B6 are the springs, (S6 comes with Swift springs) and the fact that the S6 is aluminum. Other than that, they are identical in performance. The highest model made for the integra is the super function, designed for the circuit. Here are the details on the pictured B6s:

Function-B6

Our easy-to-read and use, 6-Way Piston Valve Shock (PVS) Dial mechanism adjusts the rebound/compression force with its Piston Valve Shock Technology, Level 1 being the softest and Level 6 being the stiffest. Dial can be turned either direction infinitely. Our lightweight, Aluminum Rigid upper mount with rubber bushing decreases noise level and eliminates vibration through absorption. (Strut-type uses Pillow Ball camber adjustable upper mounts for direct feel of suspension motion while helping to decrease piston rod tension). Rubber dust boots protect piston shaft against debris and other forms of damage to help increase life. ID60 Basic Spring (Street or Hard rates) maintains stroke and ensures a "seated" fit with upper and lower portions processed to a flat cut. Our new and improved lightweight, single, monotube-type, chromoly-coated, steel-type shell casing Shock Absorber with a very large piston for direct feeling and steering response now also includes a DIV Free Piston inducing more pressure inside the shock and causing less on the spring enabling more responsive movement and a softer, smoother, more natural feel. DIV Free Piston also separates nitrogen gas and oil within chamber for increased life. Driving feel and circuit times have improved. The Adjustable Shock-Stroke System is a separate, adjustable lower cup/bracket used for height adjustability which eliminates problem of sacrificing stroke and altering spring tension. Spin the mechanism over the threaded shock casing up to lower (and down to raise) vehicle height. All Zeal Function Series systems include this height-adjustable system.

 

Yeah, they're nice, and the weight thing is REALLY nice. Even the heavier B6s are lighter than most other similar setups (Buddy Club, Tein, etc., dunno about GC/Koni). As far as performance though, I like my Buddy Club RSDs more than I liked the Function B6s, as the valving is quite a bit stiffer. Unless you're in dire need of weight savings, I'd suggest something else, mainly because of the ludicrous price of the new Zeals. I got mine used, and for a steal, so it worked out well.

 

Zeal coilovers can be custom valved to each persons needs.

Zeal coilovers can now be purchased at dealer cost in my post. Take a look at see what you like.
Also..

The Function series is just that a line of coilovers.
There are approx 10-12 models of Zeal coilovers
each for vary'ing preferences.. From street to hardcore track. I am an authorized dealer for endless so if you have any questions feel free to ask me.

 

I own Zeal Function S6. They own all.

Yes, for street driving and auto-x, you won't be disappointed.

 

I use Zeal Function B6 Coilovers on my Autocross/DD Integra and Koni/GC on my Track only CRX.

Notes on each setup:
Zeal: Blown a shock after 30+ autocrosses and 15k street miles (twice). Had the shocks upgraded to the new internal design (all shocks after 02 have this IIRC) and they haven't failed yet (over 30+ autocrosses and 15k street miles). Install and adjustment is very easy. Had them rebuilt/revalved in 1 week.

Koni/GC: Used helper springs to keep the main spring seated but the GC sleeves made impact with the helper spring collar so I had to chop the sleeves in half. One shock started leaking after only a few track days (0 street miles). Very limited adjustability and I can't properly torque the front shocks because there is no place for a wrench to grip (unique to my application). Took many weeks to have the rears revalved.

 

whats the price point for your setup jeremy?

are these the aluminum version? i remember alan saying he got something different than yours, do you know?

 

I love my Zeal B2's. But I need some helper springs

 

I have been pimping Zeal S6's with a 20kg/16kg setup on the street for a with. They feel much better than my old Tein N1 14/12 setup.

 

.....the roads where Dee lives are much smoother than most of the US, however.

 

I don't think so because the roads in Okinawa are always torn up for construction

 

The Zeals I have are the steel body with aluminum upper/lower mounts but still lighter than my Koni GC.

The receipt figures I have would not be a fair comparison as very few components were paid for at retail prices. Here's a brake-down of what I have had to pay for:

Zeals:
Base price
+Swift Springs (changed rates after initial purchase)
+Rebuild Service (twice)

Koni:
Base shocks
+shortened/re-valved service (needs to be sent in again due to leaking shock)
+Ground Control sleeves (now damaged)
+Eibach Springs
+Eibach helper springs (replaced because of fitment issues)
+Swift helper springs (much better fitment)
+Aluminum upper mounts

Individually the Koni/GC components were all nice pieces but in reality trying to get them to work together has been aggravating. Here's a little time-line:

Purchase Koni shortened shocks and GC sleeves.
Discover the springs don't fit the stock mounts (particular to the 87 CRX).
Order special aluminum upper mount adapters.
Everything fits but with the spring barely seated at full droop gives me way too much ride height.
Lower the spring perch to an acceptable ride height and let the spring rattle in the turns.
Discover rattling spring has started to damage the aluminum upper mounts.
Buy/install eibach helper springs.
Discover the collar between the main spring and helper spring has a smaller inner diameter than the GC sleeve and both parts are now fairly damaged.
Cut the GC sleeves in half
Install Swift helper springs which fit over the sleeve (which isn't an issue due to cutting the sleeves).
Now a shock is leaking.

Zeal:
Install just fine.
Blown as mentioned before.
Sent to be rebuilt.
Reinstalled 1 week later.

In the end I think I have still spent a little more money on my Zeals than the Koni/GC but I have spent a lot less time working on the Zeals. Customer service from both Endless USA and Koni has been good but GC left a lot to be desired.

 

Steel body Zeal's not get the Swift springs unless you request a rate over 8kg. This unknown to most buyers but you can request ANY spring rate when you order a setup from Zeal.

My Zeal's are setup up for hardcore street driving (Touge).

 

 

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