I was given a 90 Honda Accord, and the engine has thrown a rod. I've been offered the same F22A1 engine that comes stock in it for $500, and I've also been offered a F22B1/B2 Engine for the same $500. As far as I know the only real difference is that the B1/B2 engine is Vtec where the A1 is not. Has anyone ever done a swap like this, and what is necessary to do the swap completely?? From what I understand the engine should bolt right into the transmission, but does anyone know if the motor mounts and front axle are all the same?? What about the ECU and all the other good stuff that goes along with a SWAP? They'll give me the ECU for the newer engine at no cost, but what about wiring it up and such? Anyone know of special requirements? Any help would be VERY appreciated!

 

Bump for some help PLEASE?

 

axles should be the same. Go to cb7tuner.com there is a bunch of guys that would help you out.

 

f22b1 is sohc vtec, f22b2 is pretty much the same as the f22a1

 

So I found out the hard way that swapping to the newer Vtec engine was way more trouble than its worth. So I got the exact same engine that is coming OUT of the car, and I'm having some problems getting the engine out. First of all, the car is automatic, and I can't see how to disconnect the shifter cable that goes into the transmission. I've taken the center cowel that houses the shifter, and i have removed a pin that connects the shifter to the rod, but I'm unsure how to get the rod out, and ultimately back INTO the vehicle after pulling the whole thing out. Secondly I seem to be hitting on the passenger side of the engine compartment. Any suggestions on how to get the transmission cable disconnected, and the engine out??? Please someone give me some info?

 

i did that swap in my 91EX and i could'nt be happier. except i still need booostttt. but i woulda felt that way with any engine i went with.

 

Found this in Chiltons:

"25. On automatic transaxle equipped vehicles, remove the engine stiffener, then remove the torque converter cover. Remove the cable holder, then remove the shift control lever bolt and shift control cable."

Hope it helps. I don't understand it but maybe if you're looking at the engine it'll make sense.

By the way, how much you want for your broken engine?

 

Eh, I dunno. Luckily I didn't get charged a Core Charge on the new engine, so I'm not bound to take the old one into them. I'm in Utah...Make an offer? Its got a hole in the block right under the exhaust manifold...its pretty big too...but yeah make an offer?

 

Is the head still ok?

 

yeah the head looks fine. Do you want it?

 

Okay, now I'm really between a rock and a hard place. I've been trying to get the engine out with the Transmission attached, but it doesn't seem to be enough room to take them out together. The transmission is sitting underneath a part of the inside of the body, so I've been told that I need to rebolt the transmission in place, and then disconnect the engine from the transmission, and lift the engine out. Am I crazy for doing this?? From someone who's done it before, whats the best way to do it, or how did you do it? At this point the engine is ready to be pulled, I just can't get it out. Anything I've seen in a book about it has been along the lines of "Using proper technique, remove engine from the engine compartment" WTF does that mean?

 

I just pulled a 91 F22 with automatic tranny still attached. It is a tight fit. It might help if you take off the front crank pulley to give you more room to move the motor towards the driver side so the tranny will clear the passenger inner chassis. Did you remove the tranny mount on the tranny? That will make it easier too.
Hope that helps.

 

so front crank being the wheels the belts run on over on the drivers side that attach to the alternator and the other ****? Its all sitting over the timing belt right?

 

Yeah, thats the crank pulley. Its a bitch to get off though.

 

So over the weekend I got the engine and transmission out in one piece. I also seperated the engine and transmission, and theres a big deal over the flywheel of the engine. I'm told its a bell housing. How do you get it off the flywheel, and whats underneath so I know what to expect??

 

I also was told to replace the balance belt and add some kinda retainer something or other honda made after the fact as a fix to keep one of the seals in or some ****....should I really go to the extra work and cost to change these as well? The balance belt is as expensive as the timing belt was