I'm a little fuzzy on the topic of tuning. I read threw the archives but didn't find anything beneficial.

Can someone on here explain the goals of tuning ? and when one should tune there car ?

When i say tune i don't mean replace parts, I keep my car fully maintained, but ofr the sake of having a healthy engine is it necessary to have it tuned often ?

My goals for my engine right now are long life.

My list of engine mods are
Spoon cables/leads
Iridium plugs
Mugen header/twinloop
stock airbox with KN drop in filter.
Spoon throtle body

 

Tuning is not necessary, but beneficial.

On bolt-on type setups, R's respond well to fuel/ignition tuning. With the increased airflow, VTEC could probably be knocked down a few hundred RPM's to smooth the curve.

Best option is to find a local tuner who knows Crome/Uberdata, so all you have to pay for is the services and chipping hardware, seeing as the software is free. You might be able to find a decent map that someone already has and is willing to share, then you're expenses drop considerably.

 

I wouldn't say it's necessary.

Correct me if I am wrong.......aftermarket I,H,E's due change you A/F ratio because your engine is breathing different. It's not going to hurt your engine by not tuning it. You may want to consider cam gears and a FPR then maybe a VAFC with a tune.

Someone that actually knows something should chime in here..........

 

<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote, originally posted by Kavehman &raquo;</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">My goals for my engine right now are long life.

My list of engine mods are
Spoon cables/leads
Iridium plugs
Mugen header/twinloop
stock airbox with KN drop in filter.
Spoon throtle body</TD></TR></TABLE>

None of those mods, with the exception of the Iridium plugs, are known to be associated with extended engine life.

Hmmmm ... maybe stock motors are best?

 

the only thing you need to do is reset your ECU

 

<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote, originally posted by zygspeed &raquo;</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">

None of those mods, with the exception of the Iridium plugs, are known to be associated with extended engine life.

Hmmmm ... maybe stock motors are best?</TD></TR></TABLE>

LOL, very true, if you want a long engine life why are you spending money on these parts, I would keep it stock for best reliablity.

 

I figure that unless im at WOT all the time im not doing much damage by allowing the motor to breath a little easier, they look a hell of a lot better than the stock pieces too.

 

You need a turbo kit pushing 30+PSI to keep your motor in tip top shape!


*sarcasm! *

 

<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote, originally posted by ITRIK &raquo;</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">You need a turbo kit pushing 30+PSI to keep your motor in tip top shape!


*sarcasm! *

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i know i know, its on order i promise.

 

Yeah I too want to know how beneficial a VAFC is for I/H/E setup. How necessary will a VAFC tune be ?? and how much will it affect your A/F ratio ??

Will the VAFC give you better or less gas mileage ?? Will this affect the reliability of the car greatly ??

 

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<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote, originally posted by JeFFFFFFFrey91 &raquo;</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">Yeah I too want to know how beneficial a VAFC is for I/H/E setup. How necessary will a VAFC tune be ?? and how much will it affect your A/F ratio ??

Will the VAFC give you better or less gas mileage ?? Will this affect the reliability of the car greatly ??</TD></TR></TABLE>

It will give you a few hidden horsepower, but that horsepower was already there before you added the bolt-ons. So any tune for any car will add hp's because the factory doesnt push all the horsepower out of the motors from factory.

As for gas mileage, it shouldnt make it any better, but a little worse at WOT b/c of the increased A/F ratio. BUT if you were currently running with a chipped ecu and no tune, then yes it will help gas mileage because it will distribute the fuel more efficently.

 

<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote, originally posted by _HondAddicT_ &raquo;</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">It will give you a few hidden horsepower, but that horsepower was already there before you added the bolt-ons. </TD></TR></TABLE>

This sounds and is idiotic because: if the horsepower was there before the boltons, then it would have made that power initially and w/o the need for those bolt ons!

<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote, originally posted by _HondAddicT_ &raquo;</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">As for gas mileage, it shouldn't make it any better, but a little worse at WOT b/c of the increased A/F ratio. BUT if you were currently running with a chipped ecu and no tune, then yes it will help gas mileage because it will distribute the fuel more efficently.</TD></TR></TABLE>

Increased A/F? Numericly Better? As in 11:1 is better than 14:1?
Distribute the fuel more efficiently? (Not even partial credit for this one w/o an explanation).

Let's see who's zooming who, here.

 

<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote, originally posted by zygspeed &raquo;</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">This sounds and is idiotic because: if the horsepower was there before the boltons, then it would have made that power initially and w/o the need for those bolt ons!

Increased A/F? Numericly Better? As in 11:1 is better than 14:1?
Distribute the fuel more efficiently? (Not even partial credit for this one w/o an explanation).

Let's see who's zooming who, here. </TD></TR></TABLE>

You werent understanding what I said. Comming from factory the caR is not stressed to its full potential. Therefore dyno tuning with a vafc will extract more hp's with increased fuel increments.

 

<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote, originally posted by _HondAddicT_ &raquo;</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">It will give you a few hidden horsepower, but that horsepower was already there before you added the bolt-ons. </TD></TR></TABLE>

You should think that through a bit more.

 

<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote, originally posted by _HondAddicT_ &raquo;</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">You werent understanding what I said. Comming from factory the caR is not stressed to its full potential. Therefore dyno tuning with a vafc will extract more hp's with increased fuel increments.</TD></TR></TABLE>

I heard you saying that an intake, header and exhaust would add no more power than a stock motor! Hmmm, some VAFV tweaks notwithstanding!

 

Too many e-beers


Modified by _HondAddicT_ at 3:39 AM 8/24/2005

 

<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote, originally posted by _HondAddicT_ &raquo;</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote"> but you could tune a stock motor and find horsepower by running the car rich and what not </TD></TR></TABLE>

I think you should rethink that statement too.

 

<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote, originally posted by mythias &raquo;</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">I think you should rethink that statement too. </TD></TR></TABLE>


hahahaha.....maybe you should just think fo me!

 

<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote, originally posted by _HondAddicT_ &raquo;</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">hahahaha.....maybe you should just think fo me! </TD></TR></TABLE>

LOL! Is that even possible?

 

<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote, originally posted by zygspeed &raquo;</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">LOL! Is that even possible? </TD></TR></TABLE>

Sure Husbands succum to this horrible reality everyday..."wiipppiissshhh" (Sound of the whip)

 

So you're saying your a cross-dressing skirt chaser as well?
Or that you like to be on the recieving end of the S&M thing???

 

<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote, originally posted by zygspeed &raquo;</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">So you're saying your a cross-dressing skirt chaser as well?
Or that you like to be on the recieving end of the S&M thing???</TD></TR></TABLE>

The Skirt Chasing isnt really my thing, Im a little more hardcore than that. The S&M thing works for me......mmmmmm leather everything!!!!!

To the original thread starter, sorry for filling this thread with garbage......ill stop.

BTW was the question ever fully answered? I think I did a good job in that department.....lol

 

<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote, originally posted by _HondAddicT_ &raquo;</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">hahahaha.....maybe you should just think fo me! </TD></TR></TABLE>

I am merely trying to show you that you are in error, and should read up on the tuning of a/f ratio's and the definition of stoichiometric. I do not run 12.5:1 ish a/f for hp gains. Its so I do not encounter detonation and reliability reasons. If I richen it to 11:1 I will not see any power gains, but rather a drop in HP. If I lean it out a bit, and closer to the stoichiometric a/f ratio of 14.7:1 I will see power gains, but my motor will not last very long.

 

<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote, originally posted by mythias &raquo;</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">I am merely trying to show you that you are in error, and should read up on the tuning of a/f ratio's and the definition of stoichiometric. I do not run 12.5:1 ish a/f for hp gains. Its so I do not encounter detonation and reliability reasons. If I richen it to 11:1 I will not see any power gains, but rather a drop in HP. If I lean it out a bit, and closer to the stoichiometric a/f ratio of 14.7:1 I will see power gains, but my motor will not last very long.</TD></TR></TABLE>

Actually there was no sarcasm included. I re-read what I said and I would have ate myself up if I were to have criticized what I wrote.

This is why I shouldnt get on H-t after comming back from the bars.