any lightweight clutch/pressure plates for SCCA ITB CRX's?
any decent lightweight pressure plates and disc packages that would stand up for road racing in SCCA ITB for the 85-87 CRX Si?
i see that BSI has miata and VW sets that weigh ~4-5 pounds less than stock.
is it just a matter of taking some weight off the pressure plate assembly with a local machine shop?
i want decent longevity/pricing for an IT motor that is not doing much over 100 hp. when searching for "clutch", there seemed to be more discussion of 200-300 hp applications but i didn't see any specific roadracing/SCCA discussions/applications.
the stock one works fine but maybe slightly overbuilt. i'd like to get some weight off the system within the confines of the rules (stock flywheel but any disc/plate that bolts to it).
tia,
tom
i see that BSI has miata and VW sets that weigh ~4-5 pounds less than stock.
is it just a matter of taking some weight off the pressure plate assembly with a local machine shop?
i want decent longevity/pricing for an IT motor that is not doing much over 100 hp. when searching for "clutch", there seemed to be more discussion of 200-300 hp applications but i didn't see any specific roadracing/SCCA discussions/applications.
the stock one works fine but maybe slightly overbuilt. i'd like to get some weight off the system within the confines of the rules (stock flywheel but any disc/plate that bolts to it).
tia,
tom
Tom, Sam Moore (Sam Moore Racing Engines in Mooresville, NC - a perrenial favorite in ITB around these parts) was making an aluminum racing clutch kit a few years ago. I do not know if he is still making them but it was a huge weight loss over an aftermarket/stock unit (this was for a 240Z and he was saying he could make one for my car as well at the time). If memory serves me correctly, they were not be a cheap item but Sam builds good stuff in the engine bay and I would think it would be worth the cost. Whether the cost is worth it to you I don't know
however.
Shoot me an IM this evening and I can get you his contact information in you want.
however.
Shoot me an IM this evening and I can get you his contact information in you want.
I'd like to know, too. I wasn't able to find anything other than a lighter disc, with a pretty much standard pressure plate.
I think I've decided on either an ACT 4 puck solid hub, or an exedy cerametallic (thin) . Even if it's not a huge loss of rotating mass, the lighter disc will help with shifting......
Of course, while searching, I found a well known IT supplier type guy advertising lightweight clutch/flywheel combos claimed to be 6.5 pounds lighter than stock...... mostly from the flywheel. And, mostly illegal. Niiiiiiiice (sarcasm, FYI).
J
I think I've decided on either an ACT 4 puck solid hub, or an exedy cerametallic (thin) . Even if it's not a huge loss of rotating mass, the lighter disc will help with shifting......
Of course, while searching, I found a well known IT supplier type guy advertising lightweight clutch/flywheel combos claimed to be 6.5 pounds lighter than stock...... mostly from the flywheel. And, mostly illegal. Niiiiiiiice (sarcasm, FYI).
J
I have been researching the same thing for my car (1995 Integra GSR) and the only thing that I could find is from:
http://www.specclutch.com
They offer a lighweight option for any pressure plate that saves 3-4 lbs for an extra $79.
For the B-series they have a alumiun pressure plate that saves 5-6 lbs.
Scott Seck
#38 ITS GS-R
http://www.specclutch.com
They offer a lighweight option for any pressure plate that saves 3-4 lbs for an extra $79.
For the B-series they have a alumiun pressure plate that saves 5-6 lbs.
Scott Seck
#38 ITS GS-R
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http://www.specclutch.com
They offer a lighweight option for any pressure plate that saves 3-4 lbs for an extra $79.</TD></TR></TABLE>
was about to post the same thing- we haven't tried the lightweight option- thought about it but haven't bucked out, maybe next time...but we have been using their "stage 3" for years...and yes it is rated for a whole lot more hp than we've ever had in our ITA/H4 car. It is durable and our favorite (we preferred spec over the ACT, we have not run exedy though).
http://www.specclutch.com
They offer a lighweight option for any pressure plate that saves 3-4 lbs for an extra $79.</TD></TR></TABLE>
was about to post the same thing- we haven't tried the lightweight option- thought about it but haven't bucked out, maybe next time...but we have been using their "stage 3" for years...and yes it is rated for a whole lot more hp than we've ever had in our ITA/H4 car. It is durable and our favorite (we preferred spec over the ACT, we have not run exedy though).
I just ordered one from SPEC directly. They are quite responsive by e-mail.
Racer price on the high clamp unit with a 3 puck disc and the LW machining option was pretty decent. WOuld be a good way to go for the ITB CRX, too. I'll report actual weights after I get it......
Cost/benefit analysis of the $199.00 aluminum option is debatable. I doubt that it would save much weight, since that's not really a very heavy part (the outer housing). That's all assuming they had orders for 10. I doubt we could round up 10 IT racers ready to drop that kinda dough al at once on a clutch.
Jon
Racer price on the high clamp unit with a 3 puck disc and the LW machining option was pretty decent. WOuld be a good way to go for the ITB CRX, too. I'll report actual weights after I get it......
Cost/benefit analysis of the $199.00 aluminum option is debatable. I doubt that it would save much weight, since that's not really a very heavy part (the outer housing). That's all assuming they had orders for 10. I doubt we could round up 10 IT racers ready to drop that kinda dough al at once on a clutch.
Jon
We are developing some lightweight clutches, but I am not sure of the demand for the various models. Can you elaborate on the rules and the demand from your perspective.
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Generally the rules (for SCCA IT and NASA Honda Challenge) state it has to bolt up to a stock flywheel, but past that you can lighten it, make it stronger, run a 3 puck, etc.
http://www.scca.com/_Filelibra...y.pdf
ITCS.D.1.m (ITCS p7)
paraphrasing: clutch disc and pressure plate are free provided they are of stock diameter and must bolt up to unmodified stock flywheel
ITCS.D.1.m (ITCS p7)
paraphrasing: clutch disc and pressure plate are free provided they are of stock diameter and must bolt up to unmodified stock flywheel
<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote, originally posted by phat-S »</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">http://www.scca.com/_Filelibra...y.pdf
ITCS.D.1.m (ITCS p7)
paraphrasing: clutch disc and pressure plate are free provided they are of stock diameter and must bolt up to unmodified stock flywheel</TD></TR></TABLE>Cool, thanks.
ITCS.D.1.m (ITCS p7)
paraphrasing: clutch disc and pressure plate are free provided they are of stock diameter and must bolt up to unmodified stock flywheel</TD></TR></TABLE>Cool, thanks.
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