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Old Aug 21, 2005 | 08:44 AM
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Aiight.. so Black was right it's the same car he looked at that I bought. But ya know I have yet to see an ITR cheaper that isn't modded to hell or doesn't have 100k miles on it.

No headgasket leak..

BUT.. something is up.
#1 at and idle the entire freakin dash and steering wheel shakes. I was thinking motor mount but they both look ok?
#2 there was a sticker in the corner that dude just had the oil changed not too long ago. Yet I looked at it today and no oil.. I mean there was some on the edges where you can see there is oil in it..but nothing is actualy reading on the stick.
-Just changed the valve cover gasket/rings..it was leaking pretty good... didn't do an oil change afterwards thought..
-there is still oil on the block just can't figure out where from? I cleaned it all off but the oil is clean so its hard to tell where it starts from.. hell the metal gasket for the header has a little oil around it too..

There is no major leaks..as in nothing is being left in a puddle in the garage.. the car doesn't smoke unless you just about red line it then it's a small puff..

WTF is going on with this damn thing?
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Old Aug 21, 2005 | 09:16 AM
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Buy a couple cans of brake cleaner and go to town on the block. Check frequently and see if you can find the area where it looks to be coming from, that may help source the problem.

Also, change the oil, it wont hurt the car, plus you do not know for certain what the previous owner did.

The previous owner might have installed solid mounts, or have polyurithane inserts, which can cause extra vibrations through the dash/steering column.

If you are really concerned about finding the leak, you can use TracerLine flourescent dye as a last resort. I have a few bottles around all the time, and it works great. However you must change the oil after you do it.

http://www.tracerline.com/dyes....html
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Old Aug 21, 2005 | 09:23 AM
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Well apparently it's a JDM engine in the car.. why? we have no idea...

Few more noob questions and pictures..
Damn guage under the hood reading PSI? What is it? What does it do? why is it at 40psi when the car isn't even on ?

I have a picture of an area where apparently a bolt is suppose to be? well it's broken wtf is it for? something missing??

It's been a while since i've been into the honda thing..



overall..



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grrr... looks to be the trnny? under the intake



???
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Old Aug 21, 2005 | 09:34 AM
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Thats a fuel pressure gauge. Should be roughly 42psi with the vacuum line pinched or pulled off while the car is running. (vac line loacated ontop of the fuel pressure regulator on the fuel rail).

The third picture is where the passenger side tranny mount should be bolted to. If you look right below where the three holes are, that black steel mount should be bolted to it, check to see if it is attached to anything or just dangling. That could amplify the shaking of the motor if it is not bolted.

The oil right there could be coming from above by the VTEC solenoid (common leak), or the camshaft seal (common leak). Odds are it is not the headgasket.
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Old Aug 21, 2005 | 10:48 AM
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cool thanks! I guess the pressure guage took a poo on me since it's stuck at 42 psi...

Just changed the oil.. damn oil filer location sucks man!

I'll look into the other stuff in a lil bit. clearcoating the carbon fiber hood too..
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Old Aug 21, 2005 | 10:57 AM
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<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote, originally posted by TeayotaSoupra &raquo;</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">cool thanks! I guess the pressure guage took a poo on me since it's stuck at 42 psi...

Just changed the oil.. damn oil filer location sucks man!

I'll look into the other stuff in a lil bit. clearcoating the carbon fiber hood too.. </TD></TR></TABLE>

The fuel system will retain pressure after starting the car or turning the key to the "on" position which triggers the fuel pump the pressurize the system. My guage will read zero only after sitting for a few hours. In other words, your fuel pressure guage could be functioning normally.
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Old Aug 21, 2005 | 11:58 AM
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These pics are from the caR you just bought?


If you were to compare my 62k mile car to that you would think mine just rolled off the showroom floor, My point... that thing has seen better days.

and because of that, there are a few things that well need to be remedied asap.
You better have the fuel pressure checked asap to make sure your car is not too lean/rich.
that Broken motor mount! well for the life in me, can't figure out how it could have been broken.
Ground strap.
Breather.
spark plug wires.
spark plug wire cover.
And where is your hood?

Yeah go get yourself a big bottle of Simple green and clean that engine bay, it will help you find any problems that arise now or later
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Old Aug 21, 2005 | 12:02 PM
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I tried. I really did.

Nevertheless, good luck.
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Old Aug 21, 2005 | 12:29 PM
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<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote, originally posted by TeayotaSoupra &raquo;</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote"> I have yet to see an ITR cheaper that isn't modded to hell or doesn't have 100k miles on it.</TD></TR></TABLE>

Ouch, I'd take 100K mi of normal wear anyday over seeing whats in that picture. New trans casing or find a really good aluminum welder.
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Old Aug 21, 2005 | 12:45 PM
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<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote, originally posted by TeayotaSoupra &raquo;</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">Aiight.. so Black was right it's the same car he looked at that I bought. But ya know I have yet to see an ITR cheaper that isn't modded to hell or doesn't have 100k miles on it.</TD></TR></TABLE>

Since it has a JDM motor then it's likely that the previous owner either neglected it or beat the **** out of it.

Did you already get a compression and leak down test run?
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Old Aug 21, 2005 | 12:47 PM
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The fuel pressure gauge reading is normal, and your fuel pressure regulator appears to be stock, so you shouldn't need to fiddle with anything there.

Also- I would pick up a set of OEM Honda plug wires for your car. I wouldn't use anything but OEM in that area....My car came with a set of Nology wires when I bought it and it ran terribly and sputtered until I replaced them with a stock set. Replace your plugs at the same time as well.

That trans mount looks pretty bad though. Find a good welder or machinist as someone stated before.
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Old Aug 21, 2005 | 02:26 PM
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also plug up that open vacuum port you have on the intake, block it off somehow you dont want dirt and junk gettin in
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Old Aug 21, 2005 | 05:17 PM
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Ok.. i'll look into that..

and not to be a bit ch.. but if you look at what I actually said.. motor mount is fine..and i'm clearcoating the hood

I tend to get cars that need some lovin... keeps me busy and happy. It's about all I like to do is work on the car.

and the engine bay was clean untill I started wet sanding the hood i'll clean it good after i'm done with the hood.


Since that piece is missing off of the tranny mount how would they weld it? I'd have to be able to screw the screw back in..


Oh and I want to get a new intake..but i'll plug it up for now.

Although is it true platic is better than metal? since it doesn't heat up as bad?
Just looks cheap.. think I rather have stock than whats on there.. And it's a daily driver so I can't have something too low or i'll be in some shiot
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Old Aug 21, 2005 | 05:32 PM
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<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote, originally posted by TeayotaSoupra &raquo;</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">Since that piece is missing off of the tranny mount how would they weld it? I'd have to be able to screw the screw back in.. </TD></TR></TABLE>

Maybe fill it with Aluminum, redrill and retap? Or grind it, and weld on a plate to drill into? Might be better off with a new tranny case, but I'm sure a machinist would have a trick or two up his sleeve.

That rear motor/tranny mount is supposed to take a lot of force holding the motor in the engine bay. Get that fixed ASAP.

-Chris
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Old Aug 21, 2005 | 05:43 PM
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yes sir

My dad is leaving for japan friday.. maybe he can get one of his guys at work to do something with it (he's GM for a company that makes toyota auto/5speed trannys)

And I guess i'll go ahead and replace the gasket for the vtec
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Old Aug 21, 2005 | 05:56 PM
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<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote, originally posted by tampaSi &raquo;</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">

Also- I would pick up a set of OEM Honda plug wires for your car. I wouldn't use anything but OEM in that area.</TD></TR></TABLE>

Two Words:

NGK and Denso.

Although you can use stock plugs and plug wires, these seem to be the best money can buy and will be better then stock honda plugs and wires. Although costly, NGK plug wires and Denso Iridium spark plugs will be your best bet.
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Old Aug 21, 2005 | 06:02 PM
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I have NGK plugs in there now but not iridium.. couldn't afford those just yet.. hah I'll switch them out in a month. maybe longer now....


My dad and I went and looked at the break a bit better and it's all 3 holes that are jacked up and it's not part of the bellhousing.. Doesn't look like it's a part that can just be swapped out... looks like i'll have to get a new transmisison.. not too sure. I wish I could find a break down diagram of the transmission
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Old Aug 21, 2005 | 06:23 PM
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Buy a helms or start taking pictures from online parts places like Delray Acura (http://www.acuraoemparts.com)
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Old Aug 21, 2005 | 06:29 PM
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<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote, originally posted by Chris F &raquo;</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">Buy a helms </TD></TR></TABLE>

Best Advice to anyone who performs regular tasks on their car. Best 20$ Ive ever spent............Besides that one hooker down in Miami!!

EDIT: Just thought about it, I have a Haynes and Ive heard that the helms is much better? Is theer really much of a difference and if so can I get it at any local H dealership?
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Old Aug 21, 2005 | 06:31 PM
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The Fuel Pressure is normal.

Your cam seal(s) are likely leaking, not the head gasket. For maintenance parts and seals, use only OEM stuff. Call Len @ Baranco acura for whatever you need - https://honda-tech.com/zerothread?id=977771

You wont need a new transmission, you just need a new case half. Its a lot cheaper...... still need to drop the transmission to swap them out, but its easy work (15 minutes) when its out of the car.
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Old Aug 21, 2005 | 06:45 PM
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All I see is transmission case.. But I don't see a pic of it anywhere..

21200-P21-040 is the part number listed

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Old Aug 21, 2005 | 06:48 PM
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http://www.acuraparts247.com has some good parts diagrams w/ part #'s and prices. But I still always order from Len.
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Old Aug 21, 2005 | 06:51 PM
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yea no pic
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Old Aug 21, 2005 | 06:53 PM
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There's plenty of pics. I'm not going to dig up the link and spoon feed it.....
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Old Aug 21, 2005 | 06:56 PM
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? I searched the part number and it didn't have an image?


Also.. USDM tranny same as the JDM?
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