I am planning on creating a daily driver and weekend autocrosser. My question is this. Is a integra 94-01 a significantly better body/frame strength wise as compared to either an eg or ek coupe/hatch? Wasn't sure which forum to ask this in.

 

I don't know the answer to your question but each model you list have had success in road racing - which is notoriously hard on chassis. That said, there have been some issues with subframe tear out for some people.

 

I was basically wondering if the integra is significantly stronger it justifies the extra weight it carries

 

I don't think it's much stronger if at all. It weighs more due it's physically larger size.

 

hmm. most hondas subframe are weak enough.. i mean most japanese cars are..

 

You maybe right concerning integras are more stout than civics, I had both, I prefer lighter civics. It could be true that most japanese cars have weak sub-frames. My theory is, most japanese cars are front wheel driven, so the rears are not overly strengthened. I could be wrong with this assumption.

 

Why not mount you sway bar like an EF so yuo dont have subframe problems.

I saw this done on the fastest FSP car in the nation.

To answer the original question i think the EK chassis is the strongest made by honda from what you listed.

 

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And ironically, it has the weakest rear subframe of all double wishbone Hondas because some idiot engineer placed the sway bar mounts outboard of the LCA mounts.

 

a coupe is torsionally stiffer than a hatchback.


comparing two different hatchbacks....the integra has the better aero, but the bigger hole in the back.

 

are you talking about a hatchback like Civic Hatch or Integra hatch? I would think that Hatch like a civic is stronger than the coupe but i could be wrong

BTW i drive an EF which may be made of wet noodles, but i have no proof yet.

 

Integra sedan

 

at least your not looking at a BMW e36 or something the subframe started ripping out on mine and I had to get the rear end taken out and all welded back up then while we were under there i got my guy doing the fab work to seam stich the frame. also had the the end links re-enforced where they meet at on the chassis.

you could always seamstich the frame and triangulate it a little better if it is in your budget, not as much as you would think it would cost if you do a lot of the prep work yourself. If you want to deal with the hassles of a roll bar you could put that in will stiffen up the rear sigifintaly.

 

i drive a 93 hatch and i think the integra is a better balanced body and you can make use of the rear wheels more on it. from what i have experienced.

Similary i hear the coupe civic is also as good. but the EK modle (96-00) is less happy taking integra parts. So if i had to do it again i would run a LS frame, i like hatchbacks

 

I'm assuming that the sedans have a lot less strength as well.

 

Actually in general sedans are stiffer/stronger than hatchbacks because they don't have that giant gaping hole in the back.

 

really?/ because I found a sedan ek dx for cheap now im excited

 

I own both an Integra coupe and a sedan. The coupe has an Autopower 4 point rollbar and with identical suspension setups (12k f 14k r) the sedan is has a much stiffer platform. The suspension provides more feedback since less energy is being used to flex the chassis. Think about it, the sedan has all that structure behind the back seat (rear deck etc) whereas the coupe has absolutely nothing.

 

for me it doesnt really matter.
roll cage rocks!

 

I have a DB8, awsome chassis compared to my friends DC2.

Integra Sedan

 

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Integra Sedan </TD></TR></TABLE>


Gee, didn't realize the DC2 was so bad.

 

I have a question. So many people here use the term "weekend autocrosser", that I'm starting to wonder. Is there a type of car that is classified as a "weekday autocrosser."

Sorry, the "weekend" term really bugs the hell out of me.

 

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Sorry, the "weekend" term really bugs the hell out of me. </TD></TR></TABLE>

My guess would be the car is used for daily transporation and auto-x on week-ends as opposed to an auto-x car only.

 

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Its not, but stock vs stock the sedan posesses more (how much, I have no idea, just seat of the pants analysis) torsional rigidity.

 

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[QUOTE=Tornadom]I have a DB8, awsome chassis compared to my friends DC2.
Integra Sedan </TD></TR></TABLE>

<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote, originally posted by White98LS &raquo;</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">Actually in general sedans are stiffer/stronger than hatchbacks because they don't have that giant gaping hole in the back.</TD></TR></TABLE>

Music to my ears....