I am looking to get an EG hatch for my daily, but I'm kinda new to Hondas so I dont know what choices are out there.
Ive been skimming the forum a little bit, but havent seen too many threads on maintaining "correct geometry".
I have been into VW stuff for a while, and on my Golf it has only a lower control arm. Which if kept at level or lower (ball joint lower than subframe) will keep the roll center from being raised. Basically you can lower it a tiny bit from stock height, maybe up to an inch before the car starts handling worse. When the car is dumped, the end of the control arm is much higher than the subframe and in a hard turn not only is the spring controlling the body roll from an up down movement, but the sideways g forces are pushing the control arm in forcing the arm up further, causing more roll. I'm sure most reading this will say duh, but I might as well just explain what I'm used to.
I'm pretty sure this kind of applies to most cars.

How much can you lower these cars before the control arms look like \___/ ... an inch or so? What choices do I have for sport springs that lower an inch or less. I was looking at the Neuspeed SofSports, but I really dont know much about other spring companies as manufacturers that make a lot of VW stuff generally dont have Honda products.
Are there companies to stay away from?

Just looking for what my options are gonna be while looking for a beefy spring with near stock ride height.
So far Ive seen the Neuspeed SofSports and the HR OE Sport.
Does Bilstein only make the HD shocks?
I dont know where to look at prices.
Yes, I am a noob here

Thanks, -James

 

you can buy the koni/gc setup...and lower or raise to whatever you like...also it helps in the long run b/c you can buy differnt spring rates in case you want to go autoX or maybe do some drag racing as well...

koni/ground controls best setup i've ever had

 

i honestly wouldnt put much attention to roll center and trying to maintain it or adjust it. also, VW and honda suspensions are really different. hondas double wishbone setup makes things less sensitive to lowering than the macpherson and torqion beam setup.

i like eibach pro kits. it does lower a bit, but not much at all.

right now, i use stock springs with upgraded swaybars to dial out a bit of the body roll. i like it.

 

Yeah, you can lower a bit more on double-wishbones because the roll-center drops at a lesser rate (it still drops faster than the CG but much less than with a strut setup). Also you have a camber gain as you drop which helps out with the body-roll.

I don't know at what point the roll-center drop overshadows gains from the lower CG but people seem to do well up to 2" lower than stock (I personally don't like more than 1.5" but that's just me).

 

thanks, this sounds good