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Old Aug 11, 2005 | 05:04 PM
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Hi, I have a near stock EG6 B16a3, with CAT 2 1/4, CAI, chip, AEM Adjustable Cam Gears and lightened flywheel 8.5lbs and a stage 3 clutch ceramic 6, and stock valvetrain.

I want to buy a skunk2 cam, but I don´t now if I can use the stage2 for more gains, and I want to rev it up to 8800rpm (my engine cut is 9000 today), is it safe? How much whp I should gain with stage1 or stage2, does anyone have a near stock B16 with skunk 1 or 2? Dyno images to help?
I live in Brazil, and it´s very difficult to buy performance parts, I need to buy at USa and send it by mail.
I would apreciate any help, and sorry about my bad English!

This is the Dynoi Cahr of my car today:



Blue line is with Chip and the red is Stock chip.
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Old Aug 11, 2005 | 05:32 PM
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I would go with the stage 2. BUT hows the emissions there? Because the stage 2 emmits a good amount of exhaust.
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Old Aug 11, 2005 | 05:34 PM
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stage 1 because stage 2 requires a high compression ratio to work well. research about them and you'll find more info. also, i think buddy club spec III's are comparable if not better than the skunks
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Old Aug 11, 2005 | 05:37 PM
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<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote, originally posted by eg cookiemonster &raquo;</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">stage 1 because stage 2 requires a high compression ratio to work well. research about them and you'll find more info. also, i think buddy club spec III's are comparable if not better than the skunks</TD></TR></TABLE>

Forgot about that. Yeah then I guess stage 1.
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Old Aug 11, 2005 | 05:43 PM
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We don´t have problems with emissions in Brazil. My compression is 10.4:1, it isn´t enough? Stock valvetrian will be safe for reving 8800rpm?
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Old Aug 11, 2005 | 05:48 PM
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10.4:1, thats stock right? If i remember correctly, stage 2 require like 11:1 and up to work well, dont quote me or anything. search. and I would never trust stock valvetrain up to 8800. You'll probably float a valve or crack a retainer revving that high. Unless you want to blow your motor, i wouldnt rev it pass 8500 and even that is kinda pushing on stock valvetrain
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Old Aug 11, 2005 | 06:07 PM
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skunk stage 1s

truly bolt on affair, will work well with your setup. dont forget the cam gears
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Old Aug 11, 2005 | 06:38 PM
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stage 1's for sure, with stock compression and boltons they work very well. Stage 2's need more compression
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Old Aug 11, 2005 | 06:43 PM
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syage 1 would be better if you plabn on keepin it stock!
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Old Aug 11, 2005 | 06:45 PM
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stage 1, like someone already said, dont forget the cam gears
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Old Aug 11, 2005 | 06:57 PM
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Ok guys, Stage 1 for me! I already have Cam Gears from AEM.
Do you have any other cam for suggest to me? Better than skunk2 stage1? Or this is good enough for a near stock motor?
It is true about have not good midrange with this cams, or just i don´t have gains at midrange?
The classic question, how much whp I can get with this cams?

Sorry about don´t use the search, but my car is stock B16a and everyone have a lot of modifications.
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Old Aug 11, 2005 | 07:01 PM
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i cant answer those questions off the top of my head but go and try to find some answers in the All-motor forum here on honda-tech
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Old Aug 11, 2005 | 10:26 PM
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<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote, originally posted by jdmsiR20 &raquo;</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">skunk stage 1s

truly bolt on affair, will work well with your setup. dont forget the cam gears</TD></TR></TABLE>

Dont forget about cam gears. Heres a link to help you on that:
https://honda-tech.com/zerothread?id=1331578
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Old Aug 12, 2005 | 05:17 AM
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Ok thanks, I already bought from AEM.
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Old Aug 12, 2005 | 05:54 AM
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lmao noone notice he has cam gears? do yall read at all? lol
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Old Aug 12, 2005 | 08:37 AM
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And about Buddy club 3+ versus skunk2 stage 1 or 2?
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Old Aug 16, 2005 | 07:46 PM
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i would say skunk stg I, i have a b16a w/ctr cams and it runs perfect

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Old Aug 16, 2005 | 08:06 PM
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Ok, I bought 2 sets for test, a ITR cams/springs/retainers and Skunk2 Stage2 cams/springs/retainers, I will first test skunk2, and If i lose a lot of power at midrange I will put The ITR combo. The set that rest I will sell at Brazil, because is very rare here, we don´t have any performance parts for Hondas, I need to import everything.
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Old Aug 16, 2005 | 09:46 PM
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keep us informed, also, you bought two sets of retainers and valve spring? just buy the ITRs ones because those dont effect the powerband i think and they are less expensive and should be fine until about 8500 rpm maybe higher,
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Old Aug 16, 2005 | 09:51 PM
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go with pro 1s. Vtec KiDD has a buddy i believe with stock gsr comression (around 10) makin damn good power. You wont loose power, you will see good gains and have a good cam still with room for improvment in the block.
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Old Aug 16, 2005 | 10:01 PM
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i'd recomend itr/ctr or s2s1's. bc3's would also be good if ur looking for more midrange. however, untuned they seem to idle a little rough. & i'm not sure what u guys have in the way of tuners down there, but i'd think u'd need someone with some decient knowledge about tuning hondas to smooth out the idle for u.

so i'd say itr or s2s1 would be best cuz they don't generally require any serious tuning to see gains & idle smooth
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Old Aug 17, 2005 | 11:21 AM
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Yeah, I will try at first the skunk2 stage2 combo with fuel pressure regulator, camgears, rom emulator and a Dyno, I will be the tuner, because we don't have good tuners in Brazil. If I have a bad midrange, I will change it to ITR combo, that is good for midrange and more easy to tune. I bought both combos, and the one that I will not use I will sale in Brazil to a friend. e don't have any performance parts for Honda in Brazil.
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Old Sep 29, 2005 | 09:05 AM
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&lt;-------selling sk2 stage 1's
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