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Old Aug 10, 2005 | 08:21 AM
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Default how do i assemble bottom end???? need help...

i need some help i just got my b16 and i will be putting together the bottom end by myself, i just need a link to a good site that has a very good walkthrough,i have searched and found c-speed and only like 2 or 3 other threads on ht on how to actually completely assemble my block, would a haynes manual be my best bet for a step by step fully detailed walkthrough on the block and head assembly, with torque specs? thanks. i really just need to know how the pistons/rods/ sit on the crank,and how the bearings are supposed to go in.


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Old Aug 10, 2005 | 08:44 AM
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well if you dont know how the pistons and rods sit on a crank you may want to do a little reading b4 attempting this For installing oem parts then a haynes will def. help you. Just make sure if you are using like arp bolts you go by what they say in the package with the bolts, and torque them to the specs. then lossen them, do this like 4-5 times.
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Old Aug 10, 2005 | 03:18 PM
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thanks but wheres the best place to get more info, iver searched ht a dozen times, and i still haven't found out what i was looking for, would a haynes tell me everything i need to know??
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Old Aug 10, 2005 | 03:26 PM
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I'm going to bump because I'm about to start building a boost block and need to find a good website/writeup.
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Old Aug 10, 2005 | 04:05 PM
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theres a few tips on here
http://www.theoldone.com/articles/
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Old Aug 10, 2005 | 04:13 PM
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thanks, hey nota-eg what setup are you workin with? im also from MD, ill be back up sometime in feb.
here are a few links i have found, if you have any please post them
https://honda-tech.com/zerothread?id=765604
https://honda-tech.com/zerothread?id=773739
https://honda-tech.com/zerothread?id=991796
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Old Aug 10, 2005 | 04:17 PM
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yea im gonna bump too. The info would be greatly appreciated.

Thanks
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Old Aug 10, 2005 | 04:32 PM
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hey fastfu, nice sig, haha
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Old Aug 10, 2005 | 05:32 PM
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bump>>>>> good info
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Old Aug 10, 2005 | 05:45 PM
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BUY A HELMS!
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Old Aug 11, 2005 | 05:35 AM
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its really not that difficult at all. I just rebuilt my b16 block last month, first time building a bottom end. As long as you get the block machined at a reliable shop, assembly is cake. Dont be scared to lube the hell outta everything either. If your unsure of anything just ask, its not worth blowing a motor because you weren't sure of something.
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Old Aug 11, 2005 | 08:02 AM
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<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote, originally posted by doublejz &raquo;</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">its really not that difficult at all. I just rebuilt my b16 block last month, first time building a bottom end. As long as you get the block machined at a reliable shop, assembly is cake. Dont be scared to lube the hell outta everything either. If your unsure of anything just ask, its not worth blowing a motor because you weren't sure of something. </TD></TR></TABLE>

What parts should you lube and can you use oil or should it be assembly lube?

You didn't happen to take any pics of the build, did you?
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Old Aug 11, 2005 | 08:39 AM
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just go get some assembly lube. I just used the ARP stuff that was provided with all the bolts (rod,main,head).

this will all be in the haynes.

when you put the rings on the piston make sure the gaps are correct.



oil down the cylinder walls prior inserting the pistons. lube up the journals on the crank, main caps, and the bearings. Dont get any between the rods and bearings (like the back of the bearings, supposively it may increase the chance of spinning a bearing).

if your using arp bolts torque to their specs not oem

use (moly) assembly lube they give you by putting it on the actual threads and nuts/washers. If your not using a rod stretch gauge tighten them to the proper torque spec then loosen them and tighten them etc. do this like 4-5 times.
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Old Aug 11, 2005 | 09:02 AM
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thanks doublejz, and whats the best torque wrench to get? and also any tips on putting pistons/rods together that the haynes manual doesn't say. my main problem is just knowing how the rods sit on the crank,once i figure that out i should be fine,i'll pick up a haynes manual this weekend.
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Old Aug 11, 2005 | 09:09 AM
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oh yea make sure you lube up the wrist pin too. it depends on your pistons/rods oem's wrist pins are pressed into the piston, aftermarket ones usually have a wrist pin with a locking ring which are a pain in the *** to get in. put one of the locks in, put the rod in the piston, insert the wrist pin in, put the other lock in. its easier if you start on one side with the lock and work it around in the groove. arp makes a really nice ring compressor too. The top end of the tool has a bigger opening and it tapers down to the bore size of the motor-like a funnel.



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Old Aug 11, 2005 | 09:48 AM
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thanks you wouldn't have a pic of the opposite side would u?
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Old Aug 11, 2005 | 10:14 AM
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bottom end? or actually the other side of the motor?
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Old Aug 11, 2005 | 10:52 AM
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Off the subject but is this Paul with the black civic? If not do you know Derrick at Truboost?
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Old Aug 11, 2005 | 11:08 AM
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buy the all motor vid by omni man
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Old Aug 11, 2005 | 12:29 PM
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<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote, originally posted by chad &raquo;</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">BUY A HELMS!</TD></TR></TABLE>

that's all you need
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Old Aug 11, 2005 | 12:36 PM
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<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote, originally posted by chad &raquo;</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">BUY A HELMS!</TD></TR></TABLE>

yeah, that thing shows it all
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Old Aug 11, 2005 | 01:02 PM
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hey doublejz i mean the bottom end, and yes i do know derrick(the red srt4) but i dont drive a black civic, i drive a red eg, and hey where can i pick up that video by omni?
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Old Aug 11, 2005 | 03:24 PM
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http://www.hondatuningmagazine...overy/
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Old Aug 11, 2005 | 08:44 PM
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<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote, originally posted by doublejz &raquo;</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">just go get some assembly lube. I just used the ARP stuff that was provided with all the bolts (rod,main,head). </TD></TR></TABLE>

that lube is for the thread on the bolts

just put assembly lube on the bearings

haynes tells all, just buy it
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Old Aug 11, 2005 | 10:57 PM
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<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote, originally posted by B_series_ &raquo;</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">hey doublejz i mean the bottom end, and yes i do know derrick(the red srt4) but i dont drive a black civic, i drive a red eg, and hey where can i pick up that video by omni?</TD></TR></TABLE>

Here we are when I was on leave from Japan last OCT.
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