as topic says..this is what my friend planson getting. I was wondering just stock after dropping in what numbers it produces..assuming no boring,stroking,pistons, just bone stock ....thanks

 

PLUS

interested in how high these combos rev to and where the powerband is at...

 

extensive building of the bottom end will be required to make it reliable not much just money.

pistons and rods and an internal girdle from a GSR.
on the head all thats needed is to enlarge the dowels to 14mm

i/h/e of course

bolting it together will get you 150-60whp 130-40lb - STOCK and low redline

complete built bottom with hi compression pistons 12:1 + you will net
180whp 140ft/lb

with some luck you drop in some ITR cams you can break 200whp.

8500 is a safe number with the girdle installed.

 

Your numbers are a bit low.
Ive seen just buildups get 210-220whp, 130-140tq
Just bolting it together will net 175-180whp.

 

Yeah I agree, 150-160 WHP is almost stock GS-R ish power...

 

numbers are numbers they vary.
i personally think its better to rate them lower,
so u can get suprised. Better to be modest
than optimistic and not achieve those numbers

and getting 210whp isn't ez. your talking about 8-10 grand.

 

i couldn't agree ANYMORE.

 

Well, considering that I was quoted $4800 to get my GSR pushing 220-225whp all motor by a well respected shop, I think your prices are a little high. It is always smart to be conservative when spouting out hp numbers though.

Can you expand more on this girdle? I'm the one who's doing this motor swap, and I need it to be as reliable as possible. If anyone w/ experience can tell me what needs to be done to keep a cr-vtec reliable I'll be very thankful.

 

what shop is this???

 

this shop is importbuilders in fullerton.

 

Here is the girdle to get:


http://www.z10eng.com/z10_products.htm

 

Hey Trey are we going B20???????

 

Thats a nice piece!

 

Hmm. On the webpage it says that it says this:

NEEDS!
*GS-R / Type R
Main Bolts, Windage Tray, Oil pump pickup
( not included )

Since my crvtec is going to be a b20 block with a b16a head, does that mean it's not going to fit?

 

it will fit, you just need to replace the 6 middle crank bolts, the windage tray, the pickup and the pan with GSR parts

expect to pay the same amount for the accessories as you will for the girdle

 

Well, one more question on this piece. Is it worth it? If it makes the engine more reliable and safer then I'll definately get it.

Here's another question for anyone who knows their stuff. How much power and what time do you think this set-up will run in a 94' integra weighing about 2900lbs.?

Cr-vtec w/ jdm itr headers, skunk2 intake manifold, aem cold air intake, and a Z10 girdle.

 

TTT.

 

hey, most NA draggers are putting out only like 220 or so whp, it's not all that hard, but it's money. oh, and that Z10 girdle is awesome.

 

Im sorry but can i ask a dumb question? ok. What is or better said what does it(girdle) do?
and do all b-series VTECs have it?




[Modified by MrPimpon, 6:52 AM 3/4/2002]

 

The girdle braces the crankshaft mains so that the crankshaft doesn't "walk" in high rpm/hp applications.
You can find the GSR girdle parts much cheaper than the Z10 piece, though they won't be as shiny.

Ben

 

The girdle is good for keeping the crank intact. CRV motors are not made for high reving or top speed cause the pistons and rods are not made for that.

 

excately.. if you're into saving money go with the modded gsr girdle.. it will work just as well..

 

My car see's 9500rpm once and a while, all other times about 8500. I don't have a z10 girdle and don't plan on getting one. Honda's have some of the best crankshafts i've ever seen. The only thing that needs close attention to is bearings. But girdle or no girdle, it won't last as long as a stock motor at those rpm's. B20/vtec fully built top to bottom. There is no reason for my motor to see 9.5krpm unless i'm showing off (but man it sounds mean), power rolls off well before then, around 8krpm. Just my opinion and i have no way to prove it but have you noticed what domestic main girdle's are made of? you don't see any aluminum ones do you? thats what i thought .

 

Ok, so the girdle sounds like a good idea. I'll get it. That means my set-up will basically be this when done:

Cr-vtec w/ AEM cai, Skunk2 intake manifold, Toda B spec cams, Toda valve springs, Toda cam gears, Skunk2 intake manifold, Z10 girdle, and Greddy exhaust.

Anyone have an idea what kind of power this is going to put out? And will I need a V-AFC and/or a chip?

Thanks a lot.

 

yeah 220whp is for the NA street cars....
220whp race car isnt much.....