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Old Aug 8, 2005 | 08:53 PM
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Hey all I am having a problem with my 89 civic, It will crank all day long but will never turn over?? I have been having problems with my main relay so I purchased a new Mitsuba one from the dealer and I am still having the same problem? what can I do to remedy the issue?? thanks

the battery is good, I can hear the fuel going into the throttle body and I can see spark when tested?? what else could be going on? maybe a bad ground somewhere? or loose connection? Thanks
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Old Aug 8, 2005 | 09:00 PM
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heard the fuel going in ????

ECU problems maybe ??

might wanna double check disconnect the fuel line from the fuel rail see if any gas comes out when you try to crank it ( dont do it too long or youll have a frickin mess)

check all engine fuses ??

and double checked ground connections ??

thats about all i can think off but i dont know everything about EFs yet im still learning

try plugging in a different ecu see if that helps

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Old Aug 8, 2005 | 09:08 PM
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check your firing order, or adjust the timing
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Old Aug 8, 2005 | 10:12 PM
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I had the same problem with my 90 last week... combo of a bad alternator, blown 10 amp fuse and a shitty ground. Check it out and if you still have trouble let me know.
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Old Aug 9, 2005 | 12:15 AM
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Man i jussted posted something like this a few days ago... Take the cover off your Distb. Make sure that Little Screw is Connected. Mine came lloose and car didn't want to fire up...crank....but no fire =]
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Old Aug 9, 2005 | 12:25 AM
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Yes do check all of your grounds. I have been in very similar situation 2 times. Both times ended up being a bad ground connection. Don't crank the car anymore just to be the safe side just in case the timing belt skipped a tooth or 2. You don't wanna keep cranking the motor and bend a valve.
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Old Aug 9, 2005 | 05:51 AM
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Normally if you have everything then you have fouled plugs, but just to check fuel delivery take off the rubber air inlet boot and spray lots of carb cleaner in the intake and see if it starts for a few seconds and let us know please.
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Old Aug 9, 2005 | 05:54 AM
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ANy Luck?
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Old Aug 9, 2005 | 10:10 AM
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just woke up, I am heading out there atm to try these things! thanks so much guys I will let you know.
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Old Aug 9, 2005 | 11:43 AM
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If my alternator is bad could that cause a no start? Thanks
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Old Aug 9, 2005 | 08:19 PM
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Old Aug 9, 2005 | 08:22 PM
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<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote, originally posted by utahcoheed &raquo;</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">If my alternator is bad could that cause a no start? Thanks</TD></TR></TABLE>

If its bad it won't charge your battery, and if your battery has juice then I believe you should be able to start the car w/o a functioning alternator, but the car would die soon afterwards.

I think.

You can take it to autozone to test it.
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Old Aug 11, 2005 | 06:28 PM
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UPDATE!!

I installed new plugs, still wont fire.. the old ones looked pretty foul.
I sprayed carb cleaner down the throttle body, still wont fire..

I pulled every plug wire and checked for spark when cranking with a ground "screw driver" and got no spark. so Im pretty sure my problem is no spark??

what could be causing this problem?? also where are all the grounds I should be checking? Thanks guys

Also the ECU is pulling no error codes.. just the one red blink when in II
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Old Aug 11, 2005 | 07:14 PM
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pull the distributor cap and replace cap and rotor. You should be able to tell if they are bad by checking for wear on the rotor or arcing across the cap.
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Old Aug 12, 2005 | 05:32 AM
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Like i said earlier have you checked that?... i had the same problem... the the black over off the distb. MAKE SURE the Screw is connected so the ?Rotor? but anyways there is a screw that is in there.. you can't miss it. it has to be in for the distb to work.
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Old Aug 12, 2005 | 05:46 AM
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What is the company emblem on your distributor cap so I can try to tell you how to check for spark inside the dist or check for ICM control of the coil.
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Old Aug 12, 2005 | 11:57 PM
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well if u are going to be pulling the dizzy off check the bearing by turning the **** on the part that connects into the cam

if it turns smoothly then u good if it don't then the whole dizzy is worthless and get a new or used one and it should fire right up

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Old Aug 13, 2005 | 02:07 AM
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Most likely you will only need a test light to test the dizzy, can I get the info please.
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Old Aug 14, 2005 | 07:22 AM
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Default Re: Crank But Wont Fire "NOT Main Relay" (utahcoheed)

you have fuel...you have air going into intake....but no spark

try installing a new coil and ignitor in the distributor....i dont know how many times i replaced those items for friends that had the x-act problems

yeah try that..almost a guarentee

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Old Aug 14, 2005 | 08:25 AM
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Alright, my Rotor and cap are brand TEC?? I checked and the screw is in place, the rotor is turning, when I crank.. this is so frustrating.
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Old Aug 14, 2005 | 05:08 PM
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I just pulled a spark plug and tested it connected and it is "NOT" sparking for sure. Besides my Dizzy, what else could be the possible problem? Any ideas are apreciated. Thanks
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Old Aug 14, 2005 | 06:48 PM
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Did you check coil?
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Old Aug 14, 2005 | 07:42 PM
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<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote, originally posted by allshowcrx &raquo;</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">you have fuel...you have air going into intake....but no spark

try installing a new coil and ignitor in the distributor....i dont know how many times i replaced those items for friends that had the x-act problems

yeah try that..almost a guarentee

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dude try what i just put. its your problem FIXED!
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Old Aug 14, 2005 | 07:58 PM
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I plan to do exactly what you posted, Thanks, I was just curious about anything else while I wait for the coil and igniter. Thanks
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Old Aug 15, 2005 | 09:41 AM
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<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote, originally posted by utahcoheed &raquo;</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">I plan to do exactly what you posted, Thanks, I was just curious about anything else while I wait for the coil and igniter. Thanks</TD></TR></TABLE>

also check the main fuse under hood-passenger side.
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