Ok i am freakin pissed i finally got the axle/spindle nut off and now i cannot get the bolts that hold the hub together and i have the right socket but damn the have a partially rounded head and the socket won't completely grip on it so now i m sore knuckled and pissed cuz im stuck so help me out herer guys!!!!!
Thanks
David

 

impact gun...highly recommended...

 

Could you give a better explaination of the problem? Like what are you trying to fix? maybe read the quote below?

 

i knew someone was going to say that but well i went to my friends house tonight to get the axle nut off and figured that i could get the hub bolts off with just a ratchet but the thing is the bolts are wierd and i don't have enough surface area to grab onto they just round off!!!

 

96 Accord im trying to take my rotors off!

 

well, on my 95, i really didn't have any trouble taking the hub bolts off. like momstaxi said, use an impact gun. i used an air ratchet and they came off beautifully. since they're alreadying rounded off, take it to a shop and let them take the bolts out before you really **** your hub up.

 

Sounds like you need a set of "Bolt-outs" from sears. They grip all the way around a rounded out nut, and help to get it off. of course once you get the nut off with one of these, you won't want to re-use it.....you'll need new ones.

 

sorry i miss spoke thy are not roundedoff/stripped but the sides of the bolts aren't that deep they flare out to be circular and my sockets seem to slip right off and i end up smacking myself !!! Real fun but has anyone tried to take them off with out air tools???

 

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finally, a man with knowledge, these tools are AMAZING. I never ever EVER use impact tools on rounded bolts, especially on a brake job, personal preference, especially to put it back together.

 

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ok i guess u know what i mean though with the shape of the bolts that they are not stripped or rounded on the edges they are just soft metal and not alot of surface area to grab onto

 

ok....I get ya. Are you using a 12 point socket, or a 6 point socket?

 

ive been using both hoping maybe one would work better than the other and its a tight space so i can't really crank on it and with and extnesion there is too much flex between the socket so it just pops right off

 

hmmmm....they're 10mm flange bolts, and I know what you mean about them being in a cramped spot.........I don't know why they're not a regular bolt though. You say they have a rounded top, which makes me wonder if they were replaced by someone else with the wrong bolt.

If you have the right socket size, and can get a firn grip on it, and it still slips, you might not have any choice but to use Bolt-outs on them. They shouldn't be that much of a chore.

If worst comes to worst, I guess you could disconnect the steering knuckle from the lower control arm, pull the axle out a of the hub......swing it around a little.....maybe that will give you the clearance you need. Or pull the whole damn knuckle off!

If they are replacement bolts, and they're softer than usual metal......you might just need to destroy them.

 

the description of the bolt which is honda oem basically is the bolt with the 6 sides is about 4mm deep so not much to hold on to and if u are not completely centered and pushing straight down on it it slips bc after the 4mm it flares out to a circle its almost what a counter sunk screw with the flat sides instead of threads but u get the idea. I was going to use a hammer and smack it to make sure it was completely seated i don't know what to doi already have to go get spindle nuts so i could go get some of these as well but how to get the damn things off?

 

Have you tried using a long extension or two?.....maybe like a 10 incher or two. That way, it'll place your ratchet way back behind the steering knuckle etc. You don't really have many options. Most sockets have a little piece of curved material on the inside before the actual socket area begins........I guess you must have that on yours. Some brands have more useless area than others. Might be something to check into.

Outside of that, I'm out of advise I'm afraid. :-)

 

yo puma hit the top of the 4 bolts with a hammer it squashes them a little thus socket will fit tighter ,,, those 14mm bolts are a pain in the neck they round off real easy and i have tried the method i told u a few times then i get a good 14mm 6 point impact socket but 1 advantage i might have i use a 1/2 inch impact gun to remove them and they zip right out .............if u dont have air tools u have to be real careful that socket is in there nice and tight and straight when u try to remove bolts ,,if socket slips u are back to square 1 ,,,,,,,,,use a long breaker bar

 

Sounds like a plan.

DO you think a deep socket would help, instead of a regular depth socket? Maybe that way, he wouldn't have to try to level the head of the bolt off like you said?

 

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actually the shorter the socket the less chance of slippage and it would be easier to keep straight

 

i can try the hammer trick i was actually thinking of but u know what im saying when the bolt doesn't go that far into the socket the part that the socket grips onto is just small and its like its to small for the 14 but too big for the 13 wierd and it sucks i ll see what i can doi really don't want to ruin the bolts either that means more money andi have to get new spindle nuts already so i can get new hub bolts but damn this project just keeps adding up real quick!!

 

yo puma forgot to mention that after u hit the head of the bolts ,,u have to hammer the socket in because now the head is a bit bigger and socket will not go in unless u hammer it in

 

yeah for me that was the plan the closer to the bolt the betterbut then again comes the prob that as u can imagine there is no room and im gonna bust my knukles again and damn its really starting to hurt i guess its just the amout of torque they need and they are just slighty too soft for the force

 

sorry ole buddy from this far away i have helped u as much as i can if u can get air gun it would be a lot easier ......u can remove the whole knuckle assembly and take it to a shop ..........remove lower and upper ball joints nuts and separate them from knuckle, remove tie rod end 17mm nut and separate it get the axle nut out 36 mm pop axle out of the hub splines , remove caliper holder bolts 2 17mm , remove the 2 10mm bolts that hold the brake line on, that sholud do it then take it to a shop to replace rotor...

 

thanks man i appreciate the help my thing at the moment is i jsut wanna get this damn thing done and i can't get to air tools till tomorrow after noon but thnaks for the ideas it made me feel a little better about what i was doing that i was def in the right direction! Thanks again

David

 

i come here to help...if i can save someone a headache and a few bucks then it is all worth it ...........