which type is "better"? i would think that vinyl gaskets are a better bet, so long as you remember to change it each time.

just to clarify, is the purpose of the gasket to create a tight seal without having to overtighten to drain plug? tia.

 

I would just stick to the honda crunch washers. rubber washers can deteriorate and cause leaking expecially since the surfaces that they have to make a seal between turn on the washer as pressure is being applied causing cuts and such in the rubber. the soft aluminum or whatever they are made of are much better for the honda motors and that is why they are used rather then the rubber washers.

 

why dont you like stock aluminum washers? i dont see you needing to overtighten anything to get a stock part to seal correctly.

 

<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote, originally posted by Eddiebx &raquo;</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">why dont you like stock aluminum washers? i dont see you needing to overtighten anything to get a stock part to seal correctly.</TD></TR></TABLE>And use a new washer each time. They are cheap, something like 40 cents each.

 

yep, I think I pay like $.27 each at the local Honda dealer.

 

stick with crush washers

<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote, originally posted by TouringAccord &raquo;</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">yep, I think I pay like $.27 each at the local Honda dealer.</TD></TR></TABLE>
man your lucky. the honda dealers over here charged me 1.50 for a damn washer, luckily i knew one of the techs over there.

 

<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote, originally posted by CD7power &raquo;</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">man your lucky. the honda dealers over here charged me 1.50 for a damn washer, luckily i knew one of the techs over there.</TD></TR></TABLE>

damn, for the crush washers? I didn't even pay that for the 5 I bought the last time I was there. Thats too much to pay for those crush washers.

 

my dealer includes them for free with the filters, each filter has a washer taped to the top of it.

And on a side note, I came from GM to Honda and I had a 93 Accord, until I moved to NJ and started using a new dealership to get the filters, I had no idea you were supposed to change that crush washer, the 93 had the same washer on it for over 200,000 miles. So not exactly sure how important it is to change every time?

I didn't even know there was a washer it was bascially like part of the plug, I had to poke at it with a saftey pin to get it to come off. But been changing it ever since because they give me a new one with each filter. But 1.50 for a tiny crush washer? that's insane.

 

Copper and Aluminum Drain plug washers are the preferable way to go. Not only are they mealable (soft and conform to surface irregularities) but they don't split as do Vinyl?, Nylon or Neoprene plug gaskets would if overtightened.
The Honda oem gasket is cheap insurance.

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yo got to remember where u live ...........everything in CA is too expensive <TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote, originally posted by CD7power &raquo;</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">stick with crush washers


man your lucky. the honda dealers over here charged me 1.50 for a damn washer, luckily i knew one of the techs over there.</TD></TR></TABLE>


yo got to remember where u live ...........everything in CA is too expensive

 

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yo got to remember where u live ...........everything in CA is too expensive </TD></TR></TABLE>


i can almost vounch that but they too, included the washer if i get part from them.

 

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yo got to remember where u live ...........everything in CA is too expensive </TD></TR></TABLE>

tell me about it man. its funny cuz at cerritos honda i asked for a oil filter for a 96 accord, he quoted me $7.99. then i asked for a s2000 filter, he quoted me $12.99. then i ask for a 99 civic filter, he quoted me $9.99

its pretty ridiculous, i could of sworn most hondas share the same oil filter

 

nope the s2ks use differnt filters and cost a bit more

 

<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote, originally posted by CD7power &raquo;</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">i could of sworn most hondas share the same oil filter </TD></TR></TABLE>

correct, MOST Hondas do share the same filter. But like Eddiebx said, the S2000 filters are different. The S2000 filter is made by a different company and are bigger. The regular filter is used by, if I'm not mistaken, all other Hondas is made by Honeywell and are smaller and cost less than the S2000 filter.

 

<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote, originally posted by CD7power &raquo;</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">

tell me about it man. its funny cuz at cerritos honda i asked for a oil filter for a 96 accord, he quoted me $7.99. then i asked for a s2000 filter, he quoted me $12.99. then i ask for a 99 civic filter, he quoted me $9.99

its pretty ridiculous, i could of sworn most hondas share the same oil filter </TD></TR></TABLE>
They really do overcharge in California, don't they?

MSRP for the S2000 filter is $8.49, MSRP for the "normal" filter is $6.49. You can buy the S2000 filter online for ~ $6.40 and the "normal" filter for under $5. Plus shipping, but normally it's a flat shipping charge so buy 10 or 12 at a time and you'll come out ahead.

I personally have never tried the S2000 filter, I still have 9 normal Honda filters sitting my garage. And don't feel bad about using an Accord filter on an Accord, it may not be as good as an S2000 filter, but it is better than Fram and, I assume, anything that an oil change place would put on your car. And if you change the filter every 4,000 or 5,000 miles (instead of the 15,000 miles interval if you follow the owner's manual) you'll be fine. The 15,000 is for the filter, the recommendation for the oil is every 7,500 miles for normal driving conditions.

 

<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote, originally posted by Heat &raquo;</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote"> And don't feel bad about using an Accord filter on an Accord, it may not be as good as an S2000 filter, but it is better than Fram and, I assume, anything that an oil change place would put on your car. </TD></TR></TABLE>

if the part number is 15400-plm-a02 then its made by fram\honeywell

if the part number is 15400-plm-a01 , then its made by filtech

if the part number is 15400-pcx-004, then it is made by toyo roki

 

<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote, originally posted by Beach Accord &raquo;</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote"> toyo roki</TD></TR></TABLE>

thats it, thats the brand of the S2000 filter, correct?

also, I thought Honda didn't sell anymore of the Filtech filters? Or do some dealers still have some until they sell out and they're switching to the fram/honeywell filters?

 

<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote, originally posted by Beach Accord &raquo;</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">

if the part number is 15400-plm-a02 then its made by fram\honeywell
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Damn, I went with Honda to avoid Fram, and mine are fram\honeywells.

Oh well...