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Old Aug 5, 2005 | 10:29 PM
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I was just wondering if anyone else read this issue.
1. RSX-S
2. Subaru Impreza WRX
3. Dodge SRT-4 ACR
4. Chevrolet Cobalt SS
5. Saturn Ion Redline

I love how Honda beat everyone with the RSX.

Lock this thread if no one cares of how great it is to see Acura beat Dodge Sorry I just don't care for the SRT-4.
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Old Aug 5, 2005 | 10:53 PM
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was it an overall comparison??? if so, no **** the type-s would beat all the cars on that list. Um am i gonna be a hick and go w/ a cobalt or srt4 or am i going to be a smart consumer and go with a type-s. no ****!
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Old Aug 5, 2005 | 11:04 PM
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It was an all around test... and they just felt the type-s was the most car for the money, perfect blend of speed, comfort, and luxury for 23k
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Old Aug 6, 2005 | 04:13 AM
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You really have to hand it to Honda (Acura) for listening to its enthusiastic consumer base.

The changes they made to the motor and chassis for the 2005 model year really make it just such a nice overall driving experience.
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Old Aug 6, 2005 | 07:37 AM
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They should have left the ECU the same instead of making the owners go through all that trouble. I think the base rsx needs some help now.
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Old Aug 6, 2005 | 07:38 AM
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it just sux how the rsx was the slowest of the whole group...but hey people dont just buy cars for speed...well most people...look at the dam srt owners...no power windows in an 05??
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Old Aug 6, 2005 | 08:09 AM
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<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote, originally posted by BlackSage &raquo;</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">They should have left the ECU the same instead of making the owners go through all that trouble.</TD></TR></TABLE>

Do you have time to elaborate what you mean by this? The '05/'06 ECU is an important part of how car produces.
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Old Aug 6, 2005 | 09:29 AM
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<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote, originally posted by NiPBoi &raquo;</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">no power windows in an 05??</TD></TR></TABLE>

haha re you serious? thats kinda sad..
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Old Aug 6, 2005 | 12:34 PM
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I haven't personally read this article but there was talk about it on ClubRSX.com and it seems the other cars got jipped on this rating. The Type-S was the worst performer out of all the cars in 0-60, 1/4, and 70-0 braking. I think it did OK in the slalom. While the debate was for overall performance I think it is funny how the worst performing car as far as performance comes in first. lol
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Old Aug 6, 2005 | 03:40 PM
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<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote, originally posted by tw_itr01 &raquo;</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">I was just wondering if anyone else read this issue.
1. RSX-S
2. Subaru Impreza WRX
3. Dodge SRT-4 ACR
4. Chevrolet Cobalt SS
5. Saturn Ion Redline

I love how Honda beat everyone with the RSX.

Lock this thread if no one cares of how great it is to see Acura beat Dodge Sorry I just don't care for the SRT-4.</TD></TR></TABLE>
Acura beat dodge in overall. It was last in acceleration... or any type of perfromance, for that matter.

When I am in the market for a entry level 'performance' car or whatever you want to name these things, I would want to get my best bang for my buck. The RSX was $5k more than the others(except for the WRX), and only offered better seat confort and 'Acura name' for that money. Some magazines have their heads up their asses.

I don't need power windows. It's just another thing that can break. I can roll my own windows, thank you. The Acura owners can shake their fists and brag about their windows when they are seeing an SRT-4's tail lights and an open trunk with a $5000 plasma TV in the back.
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Old Aug 6, 2005 | 04:46 PM
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And then the srt4 owner can shake their first when their plasma tv burns out and they have to go in for warranty work every few months with their dodge. Oh and they can shake their fist some more when in 3 years that plasma tv will be worth more then the srt4.
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Old Aug 6, 2005 | 05:02 PM
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<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote, originally posted by 96 SOHC VTEC &raquo;</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">I haven't personally read this article but there was talk about it on ClubRSX.com and it seems the other cars got jipped on this rating. The Type-S was the worst performer out of all the cars in 0-60, 1/4, and 70-0 braking. I think it did OK in the slalom. While the debate was for overall performance I think it is funny how the worst performing car as far as performance comes in first. lol </TD></TR></TABLE>

All of the handling measures are largely affected by the crappy all seasons the RSX comes with. In straight line umph its only majorly outclassed by the SRT4.
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Old Aug 6, 2005 | 06:13 PM
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<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote, originally posted by George Knighton &raquo;</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">

Do you have time to elaborate what you mean by this? The '05/'06 ECU is an important part of how car produces.</TD></TR></TABLE>

Sure. Since I have an 02 I am not 100% sure, but I believe it is a lot more expensive in that car to get the hondata ECU flash. I think you need a harness and the ECU from the 02-04. If they would have left in the 02-04 ECU and reprogrammed that, it would have been better for the aftermarket.
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Old Aug 6, 2005 | 10:43 PM
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<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote, originally posted by JMU R1 &raquo;</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">

All of the handling measures are largely affected by the crappy all seasons the RSX comes with. In straight line umph its only majorly outclassed by the SRT4. </TD></TR></TABLE>

AMEN
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Old Aug 6, 2005 | 11:15 PM
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<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote, originally posted by Captin Bodussy &raquo;</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">And then the srt4 owner can shake their first when their plasma tv burns out and they have to go in for warranty work every few months with their dodge. Oh and they can shake their fist some more when in 3 years that plasma tv will be worth more then the srt4.</TD></TR></TABLE>

I agree.
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Old Aug 7, 2005 | 12:44 PM
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What car would the girl rather be driven home in?
When you throw the keys up on the table it will read: ACURA, SUBARU, DODGE, CHEVY, SATURN.
Now Compare the 360 Modena, GT-40, and an '88 M3. The table now reads: FERRARI, FORD, and BMW.
Repeat the question.


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Old Aug 7, 2005 | 12:59 PM
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<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote, originally posted by dxasaurus &raquo;</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">Acura beat dodge in overall. It was last in acceleration... or any type of perfromance, for that matter.

When I am in the market for a entry level 'performance' car or whatever you want to name these things, I would want to get my best bang for my buck. The RSX was $5k more than the others(except for the WRX), and only offered better seat confort and 'Acura name' for that money. Some magazines have their heads up their asses.

I don't need power windows. It's just another thing that can break. I can roll my own windows, thank you. The Acura owners can shake their fists and brag about their windows when they are seeing an SRT-4's tail lights and an open trunk with a $5000 plasma TV in the back.</TD></TR></TABLE>

It's funny because it's so true..... But on the other hand, not everyone buys a car for speed alone. Alot of other people look at the entire package....

Personally, I couldn't drive a srt4 everyday because the interior looks like and feels like crap. Someone purchasing the car for his son's first car my take resale value into consideration. Personally, I would NEVER buy a used str4..

My choice would be the wrx. It's got a great blend of luxury and performance with a versatile drive train setup.
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Old Aug 7, 2005 | 04:33 PM
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that's weird that all the cars in the category are FI and the rsx still won. anyways they said the evo interior was better than the sti interior when it came out. I **** on the evo interior!
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Old Aug 7, 2005 | 06:43 PM
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i remember in the article it said something along the lines of "the acura brand name sounds better than dodge"

i'm probably way off the exact quote, but that was the idea the author tried to point out.

for the rsx! good job, honda/acura!
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Old Aug 8, 2005 | 08:39 AM
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<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote, originally posted by JMU R1 &raquo;</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">

All of the handling measures are largely affected by the crappy all seasons the RSX comes with. In straight line umph its only majorly outclassed by the SRT4. </TD></TR></TABLE>

If I remember the article correctly I thought the RSX had the best skid-pad performance. .88 possibly. That says a lot for the new suspension geometry and that the RSX has all season tires while the others (most likely the SRT-4) have summer use tires. Some please correct me if I'm wrong, I was a cheapskate and read the article in Border's instead of buying it.
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Old Aug 8, 2005 | 08:57 AM
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<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote, originally posted by vitowrx &raquo;</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">What car would the girl rather be driven home in?
When you throw the keys up on the table it will read: ACURA, SUBARU, DODGE, CHEVY, SATURN.
Now Compare the 360 Modena, GT-40, and an '88 M3. The table now reads: FERRARI, FORD, and BMW.
Repeat the question.


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this is true
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Old Aug 9, 2005 | 12:23 PM
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I read it and am glad RSX-S came up on top

But one thing I don't like is that when Car and Driver reviewed the RSX in an earlier issue, their 0-60 time was 6.0 or 6.1 seconds. That's the official time too I think. Why did they have to get a 6.4 in the comparo?
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Old Aug 10, 2005 | 11:33 AM
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<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote, originally posted by GeVz2kX &raquo;</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">
But one thing I don't like is that when Car and Driver reviewed the RSX in an earlier issue, their 0-60 time was 6.0 or 6.1 seconds. That's the official time too I think. Why did they have to get a 6.4 in the comparo?</TD></TR></TABLE>

Any number of things could contribute to this difference - production variances, surface conditions, weather, etc.

The RSX did have the top skid pad numbers...
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Old Aug 10, 2005 | 11:39 AM
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Yeah man, that's awesome. I actually saw the video than read it. I have it in my computer. It's just a video that shows the top 5 you listed. With 2005 Type S shown last as number ONE. Nice...
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Old Aug 15, 2005 | 12:37 AM
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<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote, originally posted by tw_itr01 &raquo;</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">I was just wondering if anyone else read this issue.
1. RSX-S
2. Subaru Impreza WRX
3. Dodge SRT-4 ACR
4. Chevrolet Cobalt SS
5. Saturn Ion Redline

I love how Honda beat everyone with the RSX.

Lock this thread if no one cares of how great it is to see Acura beat Dodge Sorry I just don't care for the SRT-4.</TD></TR></TABLE>

careful man, the guys from the srt forums are reading this right now and they probably are plotting your doom!!!!!!
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