Is there something wrong with the intake manifold on the '05??
I own an '05 what is the best intake to put on?? I am a daily driver that will be driving in canadian winter
Thanks

 

Stricter government emissions regulations forced Honda to restrict their motors even more this year.


I suspect, that should you get an 06, you can easily get those HP and more back with some cheap parts....

 

<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote, originally posted by Taristin &raquo;</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">Stricter government emissions regulations forced Honda to restrict their motors even more this year.


I suspect, that should you get an 06, you can easily get those HP and more back with some cheap parts....</TD></TR></TABLE>

Wrong... the new numbers are created by a new type of testing called something to the effect of SAE Net (rev 8/04) or something like that (Sorry i forget what it is called). Look it up, it is a new standerd of reporting the HP/TQ of an engine and it being used by Honda/Acura in 06 (and soon to be used by everyone).

It def does not have to do with emissions... Hondas and Acuras are rated very well when it comes to emisions.

 

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Wrong... the new numbers are created by a new type of testing called something to the effect of SAE Net (rev 8/04) or something like that (Sorry i forget what it is called). Look it up, it is a new standerd of reporting the HP/TQ of an engine and it being used by Honda/Acura in 06 (and soon to be used by everyone).

It def does not have to do with emissions... Hondas and Acuras are rated very well when it comes to emisions. </TD></TR></TABLE>

I believe they are rating the engines with the power steering and other accessories. The 05 and 06 engines should be identical though

 

It has nothing to do with the engine, or the accessories for that matter. SAE revised the standard (J1349, I believe), and the revised testing procedure yields lower numbers. I am not sure of the specifics of the standard change, but I can assure you it is not a question of accessories. All engines rated in net horsepower (vs. the old gross horsepower) have to be run will all accessories and a full exhaust as installed in the vehicle - this is the definition of net horsepower.

Mechanically, the car is identical to, and will perform identically as an '05.

 

2005 and 2006 RSX's have the exact same engine...same car overall except for the addition of one new color and subtraction of a color.

 

<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote, originally posted by Nosser &raquo;</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">It has nothing to do with the engine, or the accessories for that matter. SAE revised the standard (J1349, I believe), and the revised testing procedure yields lower numbers. I am not sure of the specifics of the standard change, but I can assure you it is not a question of accessories. All engines rated in net horsepower (vs. the old gross horsepower) have to be run will all accessories and a full exhaust as installed in the vehicle - this is the definition of net horsepower.

Mechanically, the car is identical to, and will perform identically as an '05.</TD></TR></TABLE>

Yes the car will be mechanically the same and same engine etc but I thought I heard somewhere about testing with the A/C on and perhaps some other things and this leads me to believe it might have something to do with at least some of the accessories. Now I might be wrong as I cannot find where I heard this at but take it for what its worth.

Either way 05 and 06 will be the same car, different testing to determine HP.

 

05 pWnz all....hahahahahahaha

 

<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote, originally posted by Slow EJ8 &raquo;</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">

Yes the car will be mechanically the same and same engine etc but I thought I heard somewhere about testing with the A/C on and perhaps some other things and this leads me to believe it might have something to do with at least some of the accessories. Now I might be wrong as I cannot find where I heard this at but take it for what its worth.

Either way 05 and 06 will be the same car, different testing to determine HP. </TD></TR></TABLE>

See! It wasnt just me that heard that. I think I was on SHO or TI when I read that...

 

<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote, originally posted by J337_UNIT &raquo;</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">2005 and 2006 RSX's have the exact same engine....</TD></TR></TABLE>

You're exactly right, it is the same motor in 2006 that was used in 2005. Honda agreed with the lower HP ratings that result from everyone's adhering to SAE J1349 and the definition of "net" HP.

 

<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote, originally posted by squideg6 &raquo;</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">Is there something wrong with the intake manifold on the '05?</TD></TR></TABLE>

Nobody really addressed that question, so I'd like to ask what exactly you think could possibly be wrong with the intake manifold?

The RSX versions of the K20A3 and K20Z1 have different intake manifolds. In order to help with providing torque at lower speeds, the intake manifold of the RSX non-S (ROW "Premium") model is dual-stage like the old GS-R intake manifold.

At lower speeds, it uses the longer, smaller diameter runners to help the computer get torque at moderate speeds. At higher speeds and greater throttle movements, the intake manifold uses shorter, larger diameter runners to get as much power out of the K20A3 as possible.

The K20Z1 motor (and the earlier K20A2 motor in earlier Type S) uses a manifold with just one set of runners. The cams, i-VTEC design and computer tuning provide the torque for lower speeds.

So there is nothing wrong but you will notice that it is different, if you are comparing the RSX K20A3 with the K20A2 or K20Z1.

 

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I own an '05 what is the best intake to put on??
Thanks</TD></TR></TABLE>

JDM Type R intake is the best right now, unless you have the money for a custom one.

 

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JDM Type R intake is the best right now, unless you have the money for a custom one. </TD></TR></TABLE>

You're advising the OEM Type R intake over the Comptech intake?

Why, if you don't mind telling?

 

we are talking about intake manifolds... not actually intakes, and a custom manifold is regaurded to somthing not stock... ex. GZ

 

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JDM Type R intake is the best right now, unless you have the money for a custom one. </TD></TR></TABLE>

where's my hammer?

 

<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote, originally posted by BlackSage &raquo;</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">See! It wasnt just me that heard that. I think I was on SHO or TI when I read that...</TD></TR></TABLE>

Yea I still cant find where I saw that but I *swear* i heard it somewhere. If I find more hard evidence Ill be sure to post it up.

 

for instance, the 06 tsx is getting a 15hp boost but it is only advertised with 5 more hp due to the new hp\tq rating standards.

 

so do they like test the horsepower now with the a/c all the way up and the stereo blasting with all the lights on, while laying on the horn?

 

<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote, originally posted by Nosser &raquo;</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">It has nothing to do with the engine, or the accessories for that matter. SAE revised the standard (J1349, I believe), and the revised testing procedure yields lower numbers. I am not sure of the specifics of the standard change, but I can assure you it is not a question of accessories. All engines rated in net horsepower (vs. the old gross horsepower) have to be run will all accessories and a full exhaust as installed in the vehicle - this is the definition of net horsepower.

Mechanically, the car is identical to, and will perform identically as an '05.</TD></TR></TABLE>

http://www.team-integra.net/fo...ion=1

If you look at the 3rd post on that thread it says just the opposite. Thats where I got that from

 

<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote, originally posted by phthalo &raquo;</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">so do they like test the horsepower now with the a/c all the way up and the stereo blasting with all the lights on, while laying on the horn?</TD></TR></TABLE>

lol... i dont think its that extreme but who knows

<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote, originally posted by BlackSage &raquo;</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">http://www.team-integra.net/fo...ion=1

If you look at the 3rd post on that thread it says just the opposite. Thats where I got that from</TD></TR></TABLE>

good info

 

Yup, got that info from vtec.net.

 

Sorry, but the 05 vs. 06 power rating is going to be the STUPIDEST topic on every Honda forum for the next couple years.

Jeezus... please pay attention to when people mention the new SAE 8/04 standard. That answers the question.

 

<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote, originally posted by Nosser &raquo;</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">It has nothing to do with the engine, or the accessories for that matter. SAE revised the standard (J1349, I believe), and the revised testing procedure yields lower numbers. I am not sure of the specifics of the standard change, but I can assure you it is not a question of accessories. All engines rated in net horsepower (vs. the old gross horsepower) have to be run will all accessories and a full exhaust as installed in the vehicle - this is the definition of net horsepower.

Mechanically, the car is identical to, and will perform identically as an '05.</TD></TR></TABLE>

can you teach us economics to!?

 

<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote, originally posted by Taristin &raquo;</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">Stricter government emissions regulations forced Honda to restrict their motors even more this year.


I suspect, that should you get an 06, you can easily get those HP and more back with some cheap parts....</TD></TR></TABLE>

straight up--WRONG!

 

<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote, originally posted by phthalo &raquo;</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">so do they like test the horsepower now with the a/c all the way up and the stereo blasting with all the lights on, while laying on the horn?</TD></TR></TABLE>

wtf is wrong with you and wtf kind of question is that?