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Old Aug 4, 2005 | 01:57 PM
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Im putting in my air/fuel gauge and was wondering if ne one knew where the best place to tap into the red,black, and O2 wires at.
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Old Aug 4, 2005 | 02:03 PM
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Where the engine harness connectors connect to the chasis harness would be easy to get too . Do you have a 4th gen or 5th?
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Old Aug 4, 2005 | 04:33 PM
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you can pin it at the ecu, or the white wire on the o2 sensor itself
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Old Aug 4, 2005 | 09:54 PM
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do you have a wideband? otherwise it's just a nice little light show...
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Old Aug 5, 2005 | 05:12 AM
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i dont think i have a wideband---it might however, 4th gen lude
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Old Aug 5, 2005 | 05:55 AM
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no thats a narrowband a/f meter. hope you didnt pay a whole lot for the guage because like bb6racer said its really just a pretty light show...
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Old Aug 5, 2005 | 11:06 AM
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it doesnt make an accurate read from rich to lean at all?
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Old Aug 5, 2005 | 11:21 AM
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your stock O2 will only tell you if your R/F is greater than 14.7:1 or less than 14.7:1, it will not tell you how much greater or less it is. Thus you never know how rich or how lean you are.

stock O2 sensor is very much like a digital signal, either zero or 1 volt. It can be somewhat useful in that if your lean at WOT then you know something is wrong. As far as knowing how far off you are, and for tuning use it's crap.
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Old Aug 8, 2005 | 06:09 AM
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hmm i guess then merry christmas, its goin to b a light show
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Old Aug 8, 2005 | 11:24 AM
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Very true. Especially the autometer A/R gauge. A complete waste of money. as far as these gauges go, the Greedy one is best, but like bb6racer said, unless its a wideband, its kinda useless. Wideband o2 meters are expensive, and have a limited life. The sensor I use on my MoTeC has a life span of about 25 hours I think.

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Old Aug 8, 2005 | 01:21 PM
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<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote, originally posted by onefastrx7turbo &raquo;</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote"> Wideband o2 meters are expensive, and have a limited life. The sensor I use on my MoTeC has a life span of about 25 hours I think.
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don't some cars come w/ wideband o2 sensors? i've never heard of a 25hour lifespan.
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Old Aug 8, 2005 | 02:34 PM
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no, no stock car comes with a wideband 02 sensor


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Old Aug 8, 2005 | 02:37 PM
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wrong...
civic vtec-e comes with wideband NGK, some vw also (bosch and ngk).
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Old Aug 8, 2005 | 03:09 PM
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are you sure about that?

http://www.motec.com/products/plm/sensors.htm
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Old Aug 8, 2005 | 03:24 PM
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just because its a 4 wire doesnt make it a wideband, it's just heated.

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Old Aug 8, 2005 | 03:45 PM
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only hondas with wideband sensors are the new cars with k series engines.
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Old Aug 8, 2005 | 05:05 PM
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i'm almost positive that the hx civic came w/ a wideband, which like pentaq said had the vtec-e.
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Old Aug 8, 2005 | 05:06 PM
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<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote, originally posted by onefastrx7turbo &raquo;</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">just because its a 4 wire doesnt make it a wideband, it's just heated.

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uhh i think heated o2 sensor are probably on all obd 1&2 cars.
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Old Aug 8, 2005 | 06:17 PM
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yea, most likely, especially on obd2. my 7 orginally came with a single wire type.

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Old Aug 8, 2005 | 11:03 PM
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<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote, originally posted by onefastrx7turbo &raquo;</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">just because its a 4 wire doesnt make it a wideband, it's just heated.

Neil</TD></TR></TABLE>

they are 5 wire sensors.

http://wbo2.com/lsu/sensors.htm
http://techedge.com.au/vehicle/wbo2/wbntk.htm



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