SETUP UPDATE: Precision GT35e, AEM Datalogs, Rocket Motorsports M21 CAMS. 56k beware!
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Sup guys, well my car is up and running again. I have gotten a few PM's about the GT35e I am running. I have tested both the SC61, and ITS61s.
The spool characertistics is very similar to that of my Innotvative Turbo SC61 Killer. My original SC61 with the TO4 Turbine wheel seems to have spooled about the same. It is hard to say because I didn't have my AEM when I had my SC61. The only log I have is when I was on Ground Zero's mustang dyno. So I will post my findings and you guys can come up with your own conclusion.
Here is my original graph with my SC61- It kinda hard to tell at what rpm full boost hits. I know that from looking at the graph that 9psi is made by 4690rpm. With my GT35e@4695 or so I am at 8psi.

Now here is my log from my AEM EMS with my GT35e. I use a GM boost solenoid and it starts off at about 9.54psi and slightly creeps to 10.15..etc.I hit full boost or I should say when it levels out I am at 4863rpm's. I swear I can hear my wastegate open way before full boost hits, but that's just probably normal. I'll look into that more in the future. But I figured it would stay shut a lil more towards full boost before it would open up. I usually just run off the wastegate spring. First time using the GM solenoid.

Here is what my fuel map looks like as well as my timing map for you curious guys. The maps are the ones I used for the log above. These maps are no where near a guideline, I am simply posting them for you to look at.


I know some of you are probably going to ask pics of the setup. Here are a few new shots. Yes that is a Full-Race manifold, and yes I am going to run AC. Just waiting to get the setup tuned and bugs out before I install it.



Overall I am pretty happy with the turbo. It's not really faster or slower than my past turbo's. What I am really curious to know is if the GT35e will make more power than my old Innovative Turbo. I was really hoping the GT exhaust wheel would spool a lot faster than both of the turbo's. That is really not the case, but I sure hope it makes a lil more power. We'll have to see when I get a chance to get on the dyno. I have just been street tuning it to get the AF ratio setup throughout the whole rpm range before I go rent the dyno for an hour.
As for the Rocket motorsport cams, they seem to be working out really well. It likes VTEC at 5000, but we'll have to see when I hit the dyno.
The spool characertistics is very similar to that of my Innotvative Turbo SC61 Killer. My original SC61 with the TO4 Turbine wheel seems to have spooled about the same. It is hard to say because I didn't have my AEM when I had my SC61. The only log I have is when I was on Ground Zero's mustang dyno. So I will post my findings and you guys can come up with your own conclusion.
Here is my original graph with my SC61- It kinda hard to tell at what rpm full boost hits. I know that from looking at the graph that 9psi is made by 4690rpm. With my GT35e@4695 or so I am at 8psi.

Now here is my log from my AEM EMS with my GT35e. I use a GM boost solenoid and it starts off at about 9.54psi and slightly creeps to 10.15..etc.I hit full boost or I should say when it levels out I am at 4863rpm's. I swear I can hear my wastegate open way before full boost hits, but that's just probably normal. I'll look into that more in the future. But I figured it would stay shut a lil more towards full boost before it would open up. I usually just run off the wastegate spring. First time using the GM solenoid.

Here is what my fuel map looks like as well as my timing map for you curious guys. The maps are the ones I used for the log above. These maps are no where near a guideline, I am simply posting them for you to look at.


I know some of you are probably going to ask pics of the setup. Here are a few new shots. Yes that is a Full-Race manifold, and yes I am going to run AC. Just waiting to get the setup tuned and bugs out before I install it.



Overall I am pretty happy with the turbo. It's not really faster or slower than my past turbo's. What I am really curious to know is if the GT35e will make more power than my old Innovative Turbo. I was really hoping the GT exhaust wheel would spool a lot faster than both of the turbo's. That is really not the case, but I sure hope it makes a lil more power. We'll have to see when I get a chance to get on the dyno. I have just been street tuning it to get the AF ratio setup throughout the whole rpm range before I go rent the dyno for an hour.
As for the Rocket motorsport cams, they seem to be working out really well. It likes VTEC at 5000, but we'll have to see when I hit the dyno.
I told you that it wouldnt spool any faster when you bought the turbo from me. I still feel the SC61 is still a better deal. If you can afford it and want faster spool, look into the GT35R.
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"HybridHatch88" Why not, they make everything else pretty good.
"AzntaggeR" Yah, the car is RHD. So you've seen my car. That is probably the week I got done road tuning it. I drove the car for a few days. I don't usually let it out. Thanks for the props.
"Arturbo" I know I know, Mr. Turbo Professor
. You know me, I like testing parts out and seeing what it could do. I really would like to see if this makes more power than both turbo's. I like to experiment. I knew it would spool around the same area, but I wanted to see if that GT Turbine would make more power or maybe even spool a lil faster. There was just too many debates about GT Technology and Innovatives so called crappy turbine wheels. So I had to see for myself. People always guessing where these turbo's will spool at. There really isn't much of a spool difference between the 3 turbo's. But I hope to gain some power up top, but we'll see.
"nerdsports" I have not installed the condesor yet. I mocked everything up and made a custom bracket to hold everything. It should look really clean when I install it. I just want to make sure everything else in the engine bay is taken care of and the car is fully tuned. I don't want to take a chance and have to yank out the AC for some odd reason later on. I would hate to have to spend the money to have it recharged again. I still need to locate some AC lines. My mom tosses my AC lines away by accident. I actually need CTR AC lines, but I will just get some regular ones and have a shop customize it for me. I just need the ends of the AC lines, and they can make the piping part.
"HybridHatch88" Yup, been working great for me soo far.
"uglyasscivic" Courtney, I will be glad to do that for you. AEM didn't log that for me, but I will do a pull sometime today and post that for you to take a look at. My car actually likes a lil more timing, but I kept it where it's at now to be on the safe side. Till I get on the dyno again and see if it still likes what I think it does.
"AzntaggeR" Yah, the car is RHD. So you've seen my car. That is probably the week I got done road tuning it. I drove the car for a few days. I don't usually let it out. Thanks for the props.
"Arturbo" I know I know, Mr. Turbo Professor
. You know me, I like testing parts out and seeing what it could do. I really would like to see if this makes more power than both turbo's. I like to experiment. I knew it would spool around the same area, but I wanted to see if that GT Turbine would make more power or maybe even spool a lil faster. There was just too many debates about GT Technology and Innovatives so called crappy turbine wheels. So I had to see for myself. People always guessing where these turbo's will spool at. There really isn't much of a spool difference between the 3 turbo's. But I hope to gain some power up top, but we'll see. "nerdsports" I have not installed the condesor yet. I mocked everything up and made a custom bracket to hold everything. It should look really clean when I install it. I just want to make sure everything else in the engine bay is taken care of and the car is fully tuned. I don't want to take a chance and have to yank out the AC for some odd reason later on. I would hate to have to spend the money to have it recharged again. I still need to locate some AC lines. My mom tosses my AC lines away by accident. I actually need CTR AC lines, but I will just get some regular ones and have a shop customize it for me. I just need the ends of the AC lines, and they can make the piping part.
"HybridHatch88" Yup, been working great for me soo far.
"uglyasscivic" Courtney, I will be glad to do that for you. AEM didn't log that for me, but I will do a pull sometime today and post that for you to take a look at. My car actually likes a lil more timing, but I kept it where it's at now to be on the safe side. Till I get on the dyno again and see if it still likes what I think it does.
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If I ever decide to go with a GT35r, I'd either buy a used one, or find one for a really really good price. I still find 1200 a lil too much for a turbo. I can live with mine kicking in at 4800+rpms. I am already making almost 400whp@10psi and the powerband is pretty nice. I don't even know what I will make with the GT35e, I suppose I might make a lil over 400, but I will just have to see.
This is what I made with the Innovative Turbo SC61 Killer at 10psi.
This is what I made with the Innovative Turbo SC61 Killer at 10psi.
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I'll probably drive my car down there. I probably won't actually get to compete. **** I wouldn't even know what class my car would be able to run in. When I was running my car at PIR or Woodburn they let me run as long as I had a emergency switch for my doors. I have shaved door handles. I am working on getting another set of doors right now.
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That's good to know. I would really like to get my car down the track, even if I don't get to run slicks. I'd just like to know what it would do, the way it is right now.
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<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote, originally posted by uglyasscivic »</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">Very clean setup
Can you post an overlay with RPM and Ignition advance? </TD></TR></TABLE>
Well I had some time to do a log with the parameters that you requested.
This is a pull from 2700-6800rpm's. If I had another person with me, I would probably have done a full pull, but I needed both my hands on the steering wheel. This should give you a pretty good idea though. If you have any other questions bro, just let me know. I will be doing some more tuning when I get a chance.

Can you post an overlay with RPM and Ignition advance? </TD></TR></TABLE>
Well I had some time to do a log with the parameters that you requested.
This is a pull from 2700-6800rpm's. If I had another person with me, I would probably have done a full pull, but I needed both my hands on the steering wheel. This should give you a pretty good idea though. If you have any other questions bro, just let me know. I will be doing some more tuning when I get a chance.

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It's my DD when I actually have it running haha. I am always working on something. Thanks for the props. I try to keep the engine bay as clean as possible. It's nice to have a pressure washer. It has a few knicks here and there.
What really pisses me off the most is the paint chips on my upper shock towers from my Skunk 2 camber kit hitting the underside of it. Damn camber kit! DOH!! Ohh not too mention some exhaust stains I can't get off my damn paint because I don't have dumptube!!
What really pisses me off the most is the paint chips on my upper shock towers from my Skunk 2 camber kit hitting the underside of it. Damn camber kit! DOH!! Ohh not too mention some exhaust stains I can't get off my damn paint because I don't have dumptube!!
Crap how long did you run with out a dumptube for? I ran w/o one for like 2 days and my engine bay was coverd... well I didnt have a DP for that amount of time eathier, lol there also wasnt any boost cause the turbo wouldnt spool haha...
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I still don't have a dumptube. The whole bottom front support is all stained black. I tried to power wash it off, but no luck.
I am to make one pretty soon. Just havn't had a chance.
I am to make one pretty soon. Just havn't had a chance.
<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote, originally posted by Arturbo »</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">I told you that it wouldnt spool any faster when you bought the turbo from me. I still feel the SC61 is still a better deal. If you can afford it and want faster spool, look into the GT35R.</TD></TR></TABLE>
how much sooner would the gt35r spool up?
how much sooner would the gt35r spool up?
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I think it spools about 200-300 rpm's faster, and makes more top end power.





your car is sick man. i've seen it parked in chinatown before.