Dyno Questions
Excuse my ignorance for i am new to the Honda tech forum. I have been reading it for the last few months but this is my first post. I just bought a 94 honda civic with a b16a2 swap. It was running really rich when i first bought it. I took it to get it dyno tuned at ISA in Tacoma, WA. It was tuned with B&M FPR and VAFC. I know VAFC
. Here are the results-

Here is a list of my mods
-99 B16A2
-Aem Short Ram
-Espelir Full cat back exhaust
-CTR cams
-Revhard titanium valves, valve springs, and dual retainers
-Toda timing belt
-Clutchnet Stage 2 6 puck clutch
-SRR cam gears
-GSR full radiator
-Walbro 190 Fuel Pump
-VAFC
-Kenji chipped P28 (Type R program)
-B&M FPR with gauge
-NGK sparks plugs
My first question is does my A/F Ratios look right?
Are these good numbers for my mods or not?
Do you think it needs more tunning?
Alright here is the movie. Sorry im a newb at webpages it should work. Hopefully
http://home.comcast.net/~dirtfall/Untitled.mpg Modified by Dirtfall at 3:02 AM 8/30/2005
Modified by Dirtfall at 3:07 AM 8/30/2005
Modified by Dirtfall at 4:39 PM 8/30/2005
. Here are the results-
Here is a list of my mods
-99 B16A2
-Aem Short Ram
-Espelir Full cat back exhaust
-CTR cams
-Revhard titanium valves, valve springs, and dual retainers
-Toda timing belt
-Clutchnet Stage 2 6 puck clutch
-SRR cam gears
-GSR full radiator
-Walbro 190 Fuel Pump
-VAFC
-Kenji chipped P28 (Type R program)
-B&M FPR with gauge
-NGK sparks plugs
My first question is does my A/F Ratios look right?
Are these good numbers for my mods or not?
Do you think it needs more tunning?
Alright here is the movie. Sorry im a newb at webpages it should work. Hopefully
http://home.comcast.net/~dirtfall/Untitled.mpg Modified by Dirtfall at 3:02 AM 8/30/2005
Modified by Dirtfall at 3:07 AM 8/30/2005
Modified by Dirtfall at 4:39 PM 8/30/2005
Wow, that seems way low. And less than a 100 ft lbs. Is that normal? and you dyno'ed a 70degrees F. B16 160hp to the crank stock. That thing may need a major tune up.
What are the cam gears set too?
What are the cam gears set too?
yea they fixed that
i dont know if my A/F is right or not cause i dont know what its supposed to be at. shouldnt i still be making power past 7800 rpms?
i dont know if my A/F is right or not cause i dont know what its supposed to be at. shouldnt i still be making power past 7800 rpms?
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Hey guys i think i know what the problem might be. Me and my friend were talking tonight and everytime i hit vtec or give it some gas i shoot smoke. I lose oil like mother f@#^&*. So we think my piston rings might be bad causing me to loose compression. Does this sound like it could be the problem.
You can get the tool from harbor frieght or autozone for a few bucks. Its easy to do.
http://www.tooled-up.com/artwo...2.jpg
http://www.tooled-up.com/artwo...2.jpg
Hey guys im almost positive my piston rings are bad. I'm just wondering where i can get new piston rings for my stock b16 pistons. What size and what brand should i get. Any links to reputable sights would help greatly.
<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote, originally posted by Dirtfall »</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">It was tuned with B&M FPR and VAFC. I know VAFC . Here are the results-</TD></TR></TABLE>
Whats wrong with an AFC?
Whats wrong with an AFC?
get some sort of better fuel management and i bet you could squeeze out more power. is ISA that place thats next door to turbo technologies?
as far as the A/F is concern i think you could lean it out a bit. even down low its way too rich imo.
as far as the A/F is concern i think you could lean it out a bit. even down low its way too rich imo.
I don't know but that seems pretty close to what a b16 puts out to me... Maybe the tq is a little low but the whp seems about right... Looks way rich in the lower rpms as well. Shouldn'tbe dropping below 13-13.5 down low that would be border line rich even. Some of your AF's look like they were setup for a boosted car....
What kind of NGK plugs are they? What temperature are they?
<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote, originally posted by AzntaggeR »</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">also, those lines look a bit jagged too which is a sign of cyllinder misfire.</TD></TR></TABLE>
A very good possibility. Get that compression checked out soon.
<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote, originally posted by AzntaggeR »</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">also, those lines look a bit jagged too which is a sign of cyllinder misfire.</TD></TR></TABLE>
A very good possibility. Get that compression checked out soon.
Yea um when i bought the car i figured that since the spark plugs had just been replaced there was no need to gap them. But for ***** and giggles when i was home from college last weekend i pulled my spark plugs and checked the gaps. They were at 1.32mm. So i regaped them to .35mm and it runs SOOO much better.
Yea ISA is next to turbo technology. I really wasnt impressed with their tuning. They really didnt do much and charged me alot of money.
Yea ISA is next to turbo technology. I really wasnt impressed with their tuning. They really didnt do much and charged me alot of money.
<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote, originally posted by louiejeff »</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">man that low i think the problem is the tuner
he doesnt knoe how to tune cars </TD></TR></TABLE>
Yeah would wouldnt know jack **** about tuning so shut your mouth. Give him cold hard facts not bullshit that you "believe" to be right.
As your your graphs bro, after 5000rpm's, you are having some serious issues in your cylinders. Did you do your new plugs before or after? Spark plugs are harder to fire with a dense air fuel mixture in the cylinder as compared to idle, and this could account for your zig zagged map. Let us know what you find.
he doesnt knoe how to tune cars </TD></TR></TABLE>Yeah would wouldnt know jack **** about tuning so shut your mouth. Give him cold hard facts not bullshit that you "believe" to be right.
As your your graphs bro, after 5000rpm's, you are having some serious issues in your cylinders. Did you do your new plugs before or after? Spark plugs are harder to fire with a dense air fuel mixture in the cylinder as compared to idle, and this could account for your zig zagged map. Let us know what you find.


