Is a block swap worth it? want more power
I currently have a b16a in my 1g crx. I want more power, ideally I want to be somewhere in the mid to upper 12's on street tires.
I was thinking of swapping in a b20 short block with CTR pistons, arp rod bolts and head studs.
My head currently has crane stage1 cams and valvetrain, aem cam gears, mugen n/a headgasket.
Id run a honda LSD tranny with my 6puck stage 3 clutch that i have now. Im thinking this setup would be good for at LEAST low 13's in my 1800lb car?
I was thinking of swapping in a b20 short block with CTR pistons, arp rod bolts and head studs.
My head currently has crane stage1 cams and valvetrain, aem cam gears, mugen n/a headgasket.
Id run a honda LSD tranny with my 6puck stage 3 clutch that i have now. Im thinking this setup would be good for at LEAST low 13's in my 1800lb car?
If you want to run 12's then definately swap in the bigger block. Dont use the CTR pistons in it though,the piston to wall clearance will be off
I would think even a near stock B20 would be enough to run 13's.
I would think even a near stock B20 would be enough to run 13's.
<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote, originally posted by PyroProblem »</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">If you want to run 12's then definately swap in the bigger block. Dont use the CTR pistons in it though,the piston to wall clearance will be off
I would think even a near stock B20 would be enough to run 13's.</TD></TR></TABLE>
It runs a 13.9 as is
I would think even a near stock B20 would be enough to run 13's.</TD></TR></TABLE>
It runs a 13.9 as is
<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote, originally posted by PyroProblem »</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">If you want to run 12's then definately swap in the bigger block. Dont use the CTR pistons in it though,the piston to wall clearance will be off
I would think even a near stock B20 would be enough to run 13's.</TD></TR></TABLE>
You are right about the ctr pistons to.
on me. Would the swap still be justifiable running stock pistons?
I would think even a near stock B20 would be enough to run 13's.</TD></TR></TABLE>
You are right about the ctr pistons to.
on me. Would the swap still be justifiable running stock pistons?
you cant just swap blocks ya know...gotta tap the b20 block for vtec.
I thought you said your hatch weighed 1800 lbs...more like 2100. My friend got it weighed out at a truck station. Just a little fyi. he had a b16 swapo also.
I thought you said your hatch weighed 1800 lbs...more like 2100. My friend got it weighed out at a truck station. Just a little fyi. he had a b16 swapo also.
<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote, originally posted by D-CeReaL#4 »</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">you cant just swap blocks ya know...gotta tap the b20 block for vtec.
I thought you said your hatch weighed 1800 lbs...more like 2100. My friend got it weighed out at a truck station. Just a little fyi. he had a b16 swapo also.</TD></TR></TABLE>
He doesnt have a hatch, he has a 1st generation crx, same car I have. They are far from 2100lbs...heres mine, according to NYS database

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I thought you said your hatch weighed 1800 lbs...more like 2100. My friend got it weighed out at a truck station. Just a little fyi. he had a b16 swapo also.</TD></TR></TABLE>
He doesnt have a hatch, he has a 1st generation crx, same car I have. They are far from 2100lbs...heres mine, according to NYS database


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Swap the block and go 2L IMO. If you go 13's on a 1.6,imagine having 40+ more ft/lbs of torque!
I gained .5 seconds going from 1.8 to 2.0 on street tires in a 2300# hatch.
I gained .5 seconds going from 1.8 to 2.0 on street tires in a 2300# hatch.
dont be a trendy ricer b*tch. keep it real with the b16. IMO, the b16 is THE strongest honda block. all you need is headwork and tuning.
it also depends on what you are trying to accomplish. if you wanna drag, then get rid of the b16 for the biggest torq monster you can find. if you wanna have a fun street car/badass road racing car, and rev to the moon, keep your b16.
it also depends on what you are trying to accomplish. if you wanna drag, then get rid of the b16 for the biggest torq monster you can find. if you wanna have a fun street car/badass road racing car, and rev to the moon, keep your b16.
<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote, originally posted by frankenfiend 04 »</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">i didnt know ctr pistons can fit into a b20 block.. id keep the b16 or swap it for a ls bottom end so you can use your b16 pistons</TD></TR></TABLE>
There is a bore size difference between the B20 and B16/B18 block. 84mm compared to 81mm, do the math.
There is a bore size difference between the B20 and B16/B18 block. 84mm compared to 81mm, do the math.
Well, Humble ran low 11's with a mild 1.8 build with M22 cams. I would definately go with a 1.8 set up for the reliability go with better pistons and cams while you have it down and 12's are do-able. Skip the B20 route unless you have the coin to do it right...and even if you did I would still say build a 2.0 out of a 1.8 block.
<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote, originally posted by Mort Goldman »</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">I currently have a b16a in my 1g crx. I want more power, ideally I want to be somewhere in the mid to upper 12's on street tires.
I was thinking of swapping in a b20 short block with CTR pistons, arp rod bolts and head studs.
My head currently has crane stage1 cams and valvetrain, aem cam gears, mugen n/a headgasket.
Id run a honda LSD tranny with my 6puck stage 3 clutch that i have now. Im thinking this setup would be good for at LEAST low 13's in my 1800lb car?</TD></TR></TABLE>
if all you want is more power, a little n02 never hurts
I was thinking of swapping in a b20 short block with CTR pistons, arp rod bolts and head studs.
My head currently has crane stage1 cams and valvetrain, aem cam gears, mugen n/a headgasket.
Id run a honda LSD tranny with my 6puck stage 3 clutch that i have now. Im thinking this setup would be good for at LEAST low 13's in my 1800lb car?</TD></TR></TABLE>
if all you want is more power, a little n02 never hurts
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