Boost control needed to supress surge?
Here are my numbers for my turbo project, my question is whether or not I need to use boost control to ensure that I don't surge the compressor at at mid flow conditions or vtec x-over. I will be boosting between 12-15psi. It looks to me like @12psi it would be close, but @15psi I would need it, can someone take a look to verify this?
These are the parameters that I used.
Stock flow = 17.73 lb/min (8000rpm @ 100% Ev)
~.5 of Stock flow = 9.75 lb/min (5500rpm @ 80% Ev)-Used vtec x-over point on the advice of someone knowledgable.
20% of stock flow = .2*(max flow @ 80% Ev)
15psi (PR - 2.02)
max flow = 35.81 lb/min
1/2 flow = 19.70 lb/min
20% flow = 7.88 lb/min
12psi (PR - 1.82)
max flow = 32.27 lb/min
1/2 flow = 17.75 lb/min
20% flow = 7.09 lb/min
Comp map:
http://64.225.76.178/catalog/compmaps/fig7.html
Here is my setup:
Head:
gsr
light pnp
crower valvetrain
itr cams
Block:
line honed
fully balanced
stock sleeves
9:1 comp
JE pistons (.020" over)
JE rings
eagle h-beam rods
race bearings
Misc:
Walbro 255lph fuel pump
fpr
str fuel rail
dsm 450cc injectors (soon to be 720cc or 1000cc)
NGK iridium plugs
Deltagate wastegate
Greddy bov
Aem ems
Aem 3.5 bar map sensor
Victor X IM
3" dp and exhaust
Exedy Stg I clutch
Oil cooler kit
I know this is a "dumb" question, but I would like to know the avenue that needs to be taken. Thanks in advance.
Modified by KeyserSoze at 12:19 PM 7/26/2005
These are the parameters that I used.
Stock flow = 17.73 lb/min (8000rpm @ 100% Ev)
~.5 of Stock flow = 9.75 lb/min (5500rpm @ 80% Ev)-Used vtec x-over point on the advice of someone knowledgable.
20% of stock flow = .2*(max flow @ 80% Ev)
15psi (PR - 2.02)
max flow = 35.81 lb/min
1/2 flow = 19.70 lb/min
20% flow = 7.88 lb/min
12psi (PR - 1.82)
max flow = 32.27 lb/min
1/2 flow = 17.75 lb/min
20% flow = 7.09 lb/min
Comp map:
http://64.225.76.178/catalog/compmaps/fig7.html
Here is my setup:
Head:
gsr
light pnp
crower valvetrain
itr cams
Block:
line honed
fully balanced
stock sleeves
9:1 comp
JE pistons (.020" over)
JE rings
eagle h-beam rods
race bearings
Misc:
Walbro 255lph fuel pump
fpr
str fuel rail
dsm 450cc injectors (soon to be 720cc or 1000cc)
NGK iridium plugs
Deltagate wastegate
Greddy bov
Aem ems
Aem 3.5 bar map sensor
Victor X IM
3" dp and exhaust
Exedy Stg I clutch
Oil cooler kit
I know this is a "dumb" question, but I would like to know the avenue that needs to be taken. Thanks in advance.
Modified by KeyserSoze at 12:19 PM 7/26/2005
Wow, I know this isn't as cool a topic as "what's the loudest BOV", but someone could help out and take a look.
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