where to tap for coolant b18b
Here are some pictures of installed water lines. They are on a D16A6 with T25 DSM turbo. Also, there is a link to the instructions we provide with the water line kits we sell.

http://www.shadeTreeTuner.com/...a.doc
Hope that helps!
Craig @ Tuner Toys

http://www.shadeTreeTuner.com/...a.doc
Hope that helps!
Craig @ Tuner Toys
Dude, that looks like total crap. Blue hoses? Barb fittings?
I would love to run coolant lines to my turbo- the problem is actually connecting them! It's great that you have a shot with the engine out of the car- unfortunately that's not how most will try to install them. There is absolutely zero room to work behind the turbo- those 90 deg fittings won't work in all apps either (not that you said they did). You'd need to assemble everything off of the car, then try to fit it on- yikes!
You can get banjo fittings- but you have to point them stright down (?) I can't imagine the number of fittings you'd need to run this properly (without leaks).
If anyone has a better coolant line setup please post it.
(flaming not intended, just my 2c)
I would love to run coolant lines to my turbo- the problem is actually connecting them! It's great that you have a shot with the engine out of the car- unfortunately that's not how most will try to install them. There is absolutely zero room to work behind the turbo- those 90 deg fittings won't work in all apps either (not that you said they did). You'd need to assemble everything off of the car, then try to fit it on- yikes!
You can get banjo fittings- but you have to point them stright down (?) I can't imagine the number of fittings you'd need to run this properly (without leaks).
If anyone has a better coolant line setup please post it.
(flaming not intended, just my 2c)
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So... you're not even running coolant lines to your turbo, yet you hate on our setup?
Also, no need to imagine...the number of fittings are clearly shown in the pictures and instructions. In addition, we would never sell anything that leaks, our type of setup has been working fine for some time in several of our own vehicles, and in numerous customer cars who have purchased our water line kits for their turbos setups.
Blue? Who cares! Color is irrelevant! What is important, is what works, and this solution does that just fine.
Craig
BTW, the original question for this thread was where to tap for water supply, which is why we posted the pics and instructions. It was not to debate hose color and barbed fittings. Sorry that the thread got derailed Chris.
So... you're not even running coolant lines to your turbo, yet you hate on our setup?
Also, no need to imagine...the number of fittings are clearly shown in the pictures and instructions. In addition, we would never sell anything that leaks, our type of setup has been working fine for some time in several of our own vehicles, and in numerous customer cars who have purchased our water line kits for their turbos setups.
Blue? Who cares! Color is irrelevant! What is important, is what works, and this solution does that just fine.
Craig
BTW, the original question for this thread was where to tap for water supply, which is why we posted the pics and instructions. It was not to debate hose color and barbed fittings. Sorry that the thread got derailed Chris.
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the fuel lines that run under my car are blue. earls super stock hose
all of the lines that are visible are either the pro-lite or the braided ss.
so shut up and quit bitching, if you dont like the kit make a better one or gtfo
all of the lines that are visible are either the pro-lite or the braided ss. so shut up and quit bitching, if you dont like the kit make a better one or gtfo
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No hate. I NEVER run a barb fitting with anything that has liquid in it. In my experience, it always ends up leaking.
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Ok, again not flaming here. Pictures are difficult to take, I know. If its working for you, then great.
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Appoligze for comment. I have my reasons, *withdrawn*
<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote, originally posted by TunerToys »</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">BTW, the original question for this thread was where to tap for water supply, which is why we posted the pics and instructions. It was not to debate hose color and barbed fittings. Sorry that the thread got derailed Chris.</TD></TR></TABLE>
True, but I was also thinking of how to connect to the turbo without running the lines under the oil pan
. Most factory turbo's use banjo type connectors so the turbo can be removed for service without removing the lines. Using the 90 deg fittings is a kind of "one time only" install. I've not had good luck with this.
Additionally, Chris may have a turbo like many with the exhaust/intake ports on the opposite sides- it would be easy to accidentally lay a hose on the downpipe without even seeing it. Running the hose on the opposite side of the block over the transmission might be a better idea in that case.
Again, no flame intended. I tried to come up with a way on my setup. (GT3071 w/ inline pro manifold) There is no room on the block side of the turbo for a typical 90 deg fitting as you show. The GT series turbos have an optional kit that you can get, but the lines out are rolled straight steel (?) with no flare, barb, or AN fitting. I spent about 2 hours at the the local brake parts store (with turbo in hand) trying to figure out the thread sizes, clearance issues, etc. without sucess. I finally gave up, hence the request for pictures of a setup.
To your credit, your site does show exactly were to tie in to the block, in the correct manner, with good pictures.
<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote, originally posted by wantboost »</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">so shut up and quit bitching, if you don't like the kit make a better one or gtfo </TD></TR></TABLE>
No hate. I NEVER run a barb fitting with anything that has liquid in it. In my experience, it always ends up leaking.
<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote, originally posted by TunerToys »</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">Also, no need to imagine...the number of fittings are clearly shown in the pictures and instructions. In addition, we would never sell anything that leaks, our type of setup has been working fine for some time in several of our own vehicles, and in numerous customer cars who have purchased our water line kits for their turbos setups.</TD></TR></TABLE>
Ok, again not flaming here. Pictures are difficult to take, I know. If its working for you, then great.
<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote, originally posted by TunerToys »</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">Blue? Who cares! Color is irrelevant! What is important, is what works, and this solution does that just fine.</TD></TR></TABLE>
Appoligze for comment. I have my reasons, *withdrawn*
<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote, originally posted by TunerToys »</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">BTW, the original question for this thread was where to tap for water supply, which is why we posted the pics and instructions. It was not to debate hose color and barbed fittings. Sorry that the thread got derailed Chris.</TD></TR></TABLE>
True, but I was also thinking of how to connect to the turbo without running the lines under the oil pan
. Most factory turbo's use banjo type connectors so the turbo can be removed for service without removing the lines. Using the 90 deg fittings is a kind of "one time only" install. I've not had good luck with this.Additionally, Chris may have a turbo like many with the exhaust/intake ports on the opposite sides- it would be easy to accidentally lay a hose on the downpipe without even seeing it. Running the hose on the opposite side of the block over the transmission might be a better idea in that case.
Again, no flame intended. I tried to come up with a way on my setup. (GT3071 w/ inline pro manifold) There is no room on the block side of the turbo for a typical 90 deg fitting as you show. The GT series turbos have an optional kit that you can get, but the lines out are rolled straight steel (?) with no flare, barb, or AN fitting. I spent about 2 hours at the the local brake parts store (with turbo in hand) trying to figure out the thread sizes, clearance issues, etc. without sucess. I finally gave up, hence the request for pictures of a setup.
To your credit, your site does show exactly were to tie in to the block, in the correct manner, with good pictures.
<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote, originally posted by wantboost »</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">so shut up and quit bitching, if you don't like the kit make a better one or gtfo </TD></TR></TABLE>
Routing: Intake manifold -> Turbo -> Throttle body-> IAC Valve
You must have the stock coolant lines still attached to the TB to do this. Many people take them off, and just run to the IAC valve.
You must have the stock coolant lines still attached to the TB to do this. Many people take them off, and just run to the IAC valve.
<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote, originally posted by hybridsol »</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">Most factory turbo's use banjo type connectors so the turbo can be removed for service without removing the lines. Using the 90 deg fittings is a kind of "one time only" install. I've not had good luck with this.</TD></TR></TABLE>
When we originally put together this kit, we did have banjo fittings in it. However, we had such bad luck with the one supplier that we could find, that we gave up. We opted instead for the 90 degree solution. Which BTW, is completely reusable, and not a one time deal. The 90s connect to AN adapters which are installed into the turbo water ports. These can be reused again and again.
The 90s are barbed, but they are Twist-Loc barbs, wich have been engineered to work with the matching Twist-Loc blue hose. We made sure with our supplier, that we were using it in the correct application before offering this kit to our customers. As for the barbed fittings used at the TB and Intake Manifold, we supply stainless worm gear clamps to ensure a proper seal.
<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote, originally posted by hybridsol »</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote"> To your credit, your site does show exactly were to tie in to the block, in the correct manner, with good pictures. </TD></TR></TABLE>
Thanks! We pride ourselves on providing a quality solution for DIY'ers.
BTW, Thanks for taking the time to explain your points and discuss this, I really didn't to get into an argument.
Craig
When we originally put together this kit, we did have banjo fittings in it. However, we had such bad luck with the one supplier that we could find, that we gave up. We opted instead for the 90 degree solution. Which BTW, is completely reusable, and not a one time deal. The 90s connect to AN adapters which are installed into the turbo water ports. These can be reused again and again.
The 90s are barbed, but they are Twist-Loc barbs, wich have been engineered to work with the matching Twist-Loc blue hose. We made sure with our supplier, that we were using it in the correct application before offering this kit to our customers. As for the barbed fittings used at the TB and Intake Manifold, we supply stainless worm gear clamps to ensure a proper seal.
<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote, originally posted by hybridsol »</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote"> To your credit, your site does show exactly were to tie in to the block, in the correct manner, with good pictures. </TD></TR></TABLE>
Thanks! We pride ourselves on providing a quality solution for DIY'ers.
BTW, Thanks for taking the time to explain your points and discuss this, I really didn't to get into an argument.
Craig
i see what the IAC Valve is but is that hose to small, looks like if i tap the hose going to the TB for the feed its a 3/8 but the IAC Valve or what ever looks small, to small for a return...
Modified by love2xlr8integra at 5:52 PM 7/25/2005
Modified by love2xlr8integra at 5:52 PM 7/25/2005
Just take off the hose that runs from the intake manifold to the throttle body, then connect the hoses from the turbo, to each of those now open connections.
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