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turbo si 00 with less WHP why?

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Old Jul 22, 2005 | 10:27 AM
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hi... im currently running a t3t4 garrett with turbonectic turbo manifold... i dyno it and i had only 185 to the wheel... iono the torque yet... getting my car today... well this is wat i have in my car... 440cc fuel injector.. VAFC... exhaust.. 225 walbro fuel pump... intercooler... thats the only mods i did to the car... i was thiknin maybe i need a ECU.. but i have to change my OBD2 to OBD1.. but can anyone with a turbo or knows how i can get it up to aleast 200whp... thanks

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Old Jul 22, 2005 | 10:45 AM
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get rid of the vafc- run obd1- get uber - turn up the boost and have a nice day!
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Old Jul 22, 2005 | 11:24 AM
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http://www.pgmfi.org
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Old Jul 22, 2005 | 11:24 AM
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<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote, originally posted by b204dr &raquo;</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">get rid of the vafc- run obd1- get uber - turn up the boost and have a nice day! </TD></TR></TABLE>



also, how much boost you runnin? 185whp is not bad, thats like 210-220 to the fly (your motor is about 120 to the fly). im gonna guess about 6psi?

do what he said, obd1, get uberdata, crank up the boost and enjoy
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Old Jul 22, 2005 | 11:27 AM
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tuning. more boost.
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Old Jul 22, 2005 | 11:59 AM
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horsepower isnt **** if you cant get traction - invest in tunning and tires !
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Old Jul 22, 2005 | 12:16 PM
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he told me its at 8psi... i heard from everyone else that the civic should only go up to 9 poundand keep it low... more then that then it isnt good... and yea... about the OBD, the only thing is that in NC inspection must have OBD2 to pass... and im still thinking about swaping it.. how much more psi should i boost?
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Old Jul 22, 2005 | 12:20 PM
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<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote, originally posted by Tatakai &raquo;</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">(your motor is about 120 to the fly). im gonna guess about 6psi? </TD></TR></TABLE>

He has an EM1, so taking for granted that he has a B16A2 in there, he's making 160HP at the crank and about 140 down to the ground. He's putting 185 down to the ground at 8 psi, something's not right. Get that thing tuned right. PSI doesn't mean ****. Asking how many more psi you should run is stupid. You need to get that thing tuned properly.
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Old Jul 22, 2005 | 12:23 PM
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You need some serious tuning. I'd be willing to bet I put down more than that at 8 lbs. I run E-Manage on an OBDII hatch with a D16Y7 in it and click high 13s at the track.
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Old Jul 22, 2005 | 01:18 PM
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he tuned the car already... thats why im asking wats is there for me to do... wat can i do to make it fun more HP?
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Old Jul 22, 2005 | 01:20 PM
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i mean.. wat can i do to gain more HP... maybe something is wrong? wat is it? thats the question... thanks guys
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Old Jul 22, 2005 | 01:37 PM
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<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote, originally posted by thangnhocngheo &raquo;</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">i mean.. wat can i do to gain more HP... maybe something is wrong? wat is it? thats the question... thanks guys</TD></TR></TABLE>

i think i could help u out bro, but i have some q's.. do u have aim?..
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Old Jul 22, 2005 | 01:39 PM
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yea... its thangnhocngheo

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Old Jul 22, 2005 | 02:46 PM
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aite... i might find out wats the problem.... my 2nd O2 sensor was cut... check engine light on... probably that cause me to not have my full power... preciate you guys alot... and thanks to jmcmil6 for helping me solve my problem...
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Old Jul 22, 2005 | 10:22 PM
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<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote, originally posted by thangnhocngheo &raquo;</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">he tuned the car already... </TD></TR></TABLE>
If the car is "tuned" and you're only making that much power.....shoot the tuner.
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Old Jul 23, 2005 | 07:09 AM
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<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote, originally posted by thangnhocngheo &raquo;</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">he tuned the car already... thats why im asking wats is there for me to do... wat can i do to make it fun more HP?</TD></TR></TABLE>

With a VAFC he didn't tune anything....
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Old Jul 23, 2005 | 08:42 AM
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<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote, originally posted by thangnhocngheo &raquo;</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">aite... i might find out wats the problem.... my 2nd O2 sensor was cut... check engine light on... probably that cause me to not have my full power... preciate you guys alot... and thanks to jmcmil6 for helping me solve my problem... </TD></TR></TABLE>

Are you SURE that is the problem? I have had a turboed OBD2 before and ran it both ways: oxygen sensor connected and installed, and the oxygen sensor not installed.....never noticed a difference in power. I thought the secondary oxygen sensor only monitored if your cat was working.......
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Old Jul 25, 2005 | 10:15 AM
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ahhhhhhhhhhh.... man im hearing differece from everyone.... i think it got nothing to do with the o2 sensor now... i think its my obd2... i need to convert that to ob1 and maybe theres more of a chance for me to tune my car better and gain more whp... if you think thats gonna work.. let me kno guys... oh yea.. and toss that VAFC to some1 else...
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Old Jul 25, 2005 | 10:26 AM
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bottem line, if your running obd2 in a obd1 shell, thats your problem right there, also make sure you got the right ecu, and definately make sure the o2 sensors operational, take care of all of those, and if you still have a problem, get back to us
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Old Jul 25, 2005 | 10:32 AM
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<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote, originally posted by Tatakai &raquo;</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">

(your motor is about 120 to the fly). im gonna guess about 6psi?

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since when did an em1 have 120 to the fly...
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Old Jul 25, 2005 | 10:49 AM
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<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote, originally posted by b204dr &raquo;</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">get rid of the vafc- run obd1- get uber - turn up the boost and have a nice day! </TD></TR></TABLE>

From the little I know about boost, this will work.
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