I'm toying with the idea of getting these twm 50mm itbs for my 2.0 gsr but wonder if it will be worth the jump. For those with knowledge on this matter or insight please feel free to give your facts. Current build: Gsr block benson sleeved to 84.5, endyn rw pistons 12:1, 1st gen b16 head with comp port by alaniz, skunk2 stg 2 cams, DTR 2.0 header with current itr mani 65mm r/c bored t-body and rc310cc inj's. Will be tuned with hondata s200. From what I have "read" about these itb's sounds like a costly but worth while upgrade just not sold on it. Thanks

 

OT: do the s200 have ITB tuning option? i though the uberdata was better then

 

I love mine so far, we're in the middle of tuning them, using Crome with the ITB prgram and some added programming (lots of it for many options) from Dave Blundell (Blundar). My car is the test mule and is going very well so far, he'll be releasing the program after we get it fully tuned. Quoted from Dave:

"And I just finished ITB Tools Plus for Crome... You get to be the guinea pig Brian.

In addition to the regular ITB Tools (10x20 tables, non-honda TPS support, etc.)
-Improved resolution: 15 columns for load. 5 columns MAP, 10 columns TPS (vs 3/7 in stock ITB tools)
-User adjustable MAP->TPS crossover point
-User adjustable injector cut point (MAP based)
-Compatiblity with AddExtraFeatures (FTS/2Step)"

 

i think its worth the jump and Neptune has a great tuning option for ITBS

 

thanks for the feed back, i wasnt to aware of which software i would need to run with itb's. i thought i saw itb's running wth hondata s200?

 

Yea, but recently, Crome has been the way to go with them for EPROM tuning. Works beautifully.

 

where can I get more info on chome eng management? thanks

 

i would just try a bigger manifold like a jg or a revhard before i made the jump to itb's if you dont like it, it wouldnt be as much of a hit to the pocket books as the itbs

 

i would just try a bigger manifold like a jg or a revhard before i made the jump to itb's if you dont like it, it wouldnt be as much of a hit to the pocket books as the itbs
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is that glass half full or half empty???

 

try the hondata s300 it has an itb option. if you need more info goto http://www.hondata.com. by the way dont wast money buying manifold's when you really want itb's. and if you need more info on twm itb's goto http://www.twminduction.com.

 

awesome torque gains on ITB's nuff said...

 

as (onepoint6i) said but also throttle response and top end is craazzyy. TWM

 

look at the cost of itb's and the cost of tuning them... now look at the cost of a manifold such as a jg and look how many cars are making power upwards of 250+hp with such manifolds.. i feel the money can be spread apart better with a bigger manifold rather than a itb set up. this is just my opinion. if you are set on getting them they do work...

 

tuning itb's is not to hard when your running a standalone engine mangement like hondata,aem,fast,motec,ect......

WARNING-once you go itb's you never go back

 

May I suggest a Type R IM with a good port job on it??
...https://honda-tech.com/zerothread?id=1365283

 

im selling my 52mm twm itb's brand new never been used with 550cc rc injectors for 1600 or obo pm me if you are interested

 

twm itb's suck.. they are a severe pain in the *** to install and the design of the throttle linkage blows *******... get jenevy's if you are gona go w/ITBs

 

Wow that a pretty harsh statement about TWM. if im not mistaken the skunk rsx and integra, and norris prayoonto run TWM's. that must say something......

Now as far as streetablilty is concerned, a manifold would definitely be better. but for maximum power itb's are the way to go. best of luck with your decision

 

one of my customers just got some twm's, they might make kick *** power, but they are a bitch to install and setup. the throttles never return all the way, the ***** a pain in the *** to get to, a pain in the *** to adjust.. just an all around pain in the ***.

tuned with the right stuff, itb's are no less streetable than anything else.

 

I'm with JDogg on this one. I had *much* higher expectations for the TWM kit. I haven't seen Jenvey's in person, so I can't comment. PandaHatch's car drives pretty damn well already, and it just has a few hours of street tuning in it. Aside from the fact that even miniscule changes in throttle make the car want to GO, a girlfriend or parent could probably drive it without too much pain.

 

my DIYs have been wife driven for 10k miles

no problems as of yet ...

 

we put the twm's on cars all the time and never run into problems and never had a problem with the throttle's not closeing all the way. bring your car by my shop and ill check it out and adjust them for FREE and if there are any defects ill talk to twm for you.

 

well now with engine managements like the hondata s300 that allow tps over rpm tuning it is much easier to maintain streetable driveablilty characteristics than a ecu where map over rpm is the constant.

 

Doc's development ROM #1
Neptune #2
Crome #3
S300 #4

I guess Hondata isn't innovating for once eh?