ZC Swap Question Did A Search And Found Nothing

Thread Tools
 
Search this Thread
 
Old Jul 19, 2005 | 01:33 AM
  #1  
Not2farFromtypeR's Avatar
Thread Starter
Honda-Tech Member
 
Joined: Feb 2005
Posts: 138
Likes: 0
From: Cincinnati, Ohio
Default ZC Swap Question Did A Search And Found Nothing

Ok so I own a 1990 Honda CRX, its got a D15 and id like to Swap a DOHC ZC into it Now the Motor that im thinking about buying has
• Complete Motor
- Block
- Intake Manifold
- Complete Head
- Sensors
- Exhaust Manifold
- Fuel Rail
- Injectors
- Distributor
- Throttle Body
- Alternator
- Starter
- Ignition Wires
- A/C Compressor
- Power Steering Pump
- Headers

will the SI tranny fit on the ZC what all else do i need for this swap?
How hard of a swap is it to do? Is it something that no one who has ever swapped a motor do it without alot of problems?
and what kinda 1/4 times can i expect for a Swaped ZC


Also this might be dumb but will the SI intake Manafold fit on the ZC and will it gain or lose HP from that and will my 1.5 headers fit on the ZC

sorry if these questions are dumb but this is the 1st ive really looked into the ZC
Reply
Old Jul 19, 2005 | 02:24 AM
  #2  
Not2farFromtypeR's Avatar
Thread Starter
Honda-Tech Member
 
Joined: Feb 2005
Posts: 138
Likes: 0
From: Cincinnati, Ohio
Default Re: ZC Swap Question Did A Search And Found Nothing (Not2farFromtypeR)

TTT Please Help
Reply
Old Jul 19, 2005 | 02:54 AM
  #3  
menkio's Avatar
B*a*n*n*e*d
 
Joined: Apr 2004
Posts: 3,904
Likes: 1
From: Malt in yor moulth, boston
Default Re: ZC Swap Question Did A Search And Found Nothing (Not2farFromtypeR)

i'm not 100% sure, so someone should comfirm this.. but the si tranny will fit, so will the intake and headers, pretty much just treat the engine as a sohc d series, bolt pattern wise.. quater mile times, maybe 15's, 15.1-5 area.. at the end of the day its still about 130whp with all the bolt-ons
Reply
Old Jul 19, 2005 | 03:43 AM
  #4  
JUNIOR BACON
Guest
 
Posts: n/a
Default

+1
Reply
Old Jul 19, 2005 | 04:01 AM
  #5  
davens's Avatar
Honda-Tech Member
 
Joined: Jul 2003
Posts: 1,264
Likes: 0
From: Central Texas
Default

Here's pretty much everything you'll need to know:
ZC Swap information LINK
Reply
Old Jul 19, 2005 | 04:11 AM
  #6  
CBURKE's Avatar
Honda-Tech Member
 
Joined: Jun 2005
Posts: 2,975
Likes: 0
From: St.pete FL
Default

Yes the si trany will fit. You will have to use the intermediate shaft from the si and the si axles. Eather manifold will work don't reallt matter. If you are gonna use the ZC ex manifold you have to have the down pipe also, but you can use the si. There is really no diff in the hp gains.
Reply
Old Jul 19, 2005 | 04:16 AM
  #7  
spiceisler's Avatar
Honda-Tech Member
 
Joined: Jun 2002
Posts: 645
Likes: 0
From: Brooklyn, NY
Default Re: (CBURKE)

<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote, originally posted by CBURKE &raquo;</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">Yes the si trany will fit. You will have to use the intermediate shaft from the si and the si axles. Eather manifold will work don't reallt matter. If you are gonna use the ZC ex manifold you have to have the down pipe also, but you can use the si. There is really no diff in the hp gains.</TD></TR></TABLE>

There is no intermediate shaft on the Si. If you are using a Zc tranny then you will need the Zc intermediate shaft. Just use the Si axles and you'll be fine.
Reply
Old Jul 19, 2005 | 04:33 AM
  #8  
CBURKE's Avatar
Honda-Tech Member
 
Joined: Jun 2005
Posts: 2,975
Likes: 0
From: St.pete FL
Default

o **** i thought there was one, no wonder i couldent find it, My boy took apart the si motor si never new there wasent one.
Reply
Old Jul 19, 2005 | 07:00 AM
  #9  
myJDM89EF's Avatar
Honda-Tech Member
 
Joined: May 2005
Posts: 573
Likes: 0
From: the 6 1 4, Ohio, United States
Default Re: ZC Swap Question Did A Search And Found Nothing (Not2farFromtypeR)

me and a friend just recently zc swapped his 88' crx si and the si tranny wouldnt fit but the header and all that good stufff did.
Reply
Old Jul 19, 2005 | 07:05 AM
  #10  
ghost_ryder35's Avatar
 
Joined: Nov 2003
Posts: 618
Likes: 0
From: Madison, WI, USA
Default Re: ZC Swap Question Did A Search And Found Nothing (myJDM89EF)

the reason the tranny didnt fit is because the 88/89 have a diffrent number of splines. I think they have 20 and 90/91 have 22 or its the other way around but thats why.
Reply
Old Jul 19, 2005 | 07:07 AM
  #11  
Voodooboy520's Avatar
Honda-Tech Member
 
Joined: May 2005
Posts: 949
Likes: 3
From: Charlotte, NC
Default

http://thenew.gamesbbs.com/~dmoore/zc.htm

looks like you've got what you need, i'm starting to remove my old D15b2 from my 91DX. same swap, from what i'm told its pretty much a bolt in, then once its in there are just a few details to work out, such as exhaust manifold and a few hoses.
Reply
Old Jul 19, 2005 | 07:22 AM
  #12  
TurtleEF3's Avatar
 
Joined: Feb 2005
Posts: 187
Likes: 0
From: NM
Default Re: ZC Swap Question Did A Search And Found Nothing (Not2farFromtypeR)

I'm pretty sure that the si intake manifold will not fit. You will probably have to port the header because the zc ports are larger than other d series ports.
Reply
Old Jul 19, 2005 | 07:27 AM
  #13  
davens's Avatar
Honda-Tech Member
 
Joined: Jul 2003
Posts: 1,264
Likes: 0
From: Central Texas
Default Re: ZC Swap Question Did A Search And Found Nothing (ghost_ryder35)

<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote, originally posted by ghost_ryder35 &raquo;</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">the reason the tranny didnt fit is because the 88/89 have a diffrent number of splines. I think they have 20 and 90/91 have 22 or its the other way around but thats why.</TD></TR></TABLE>

The 88 is the only oddball year for spline count. 89 is the same as 90-91.
Reply
Old Jul 19, 2005 | 07:35 AM
  #14  
Merilious's Avatar
 
Joined: Apr 2004
Posts: 586
Likes: 1
From: Surrey, BC, Canada
Default

If its a 90-91 Si Tranny then it will work, if you use a ZC tranny then you will need the ZC intermediate shaft and ZC axles, or 90-93 Teg Axles.

The intake manifold wont work, the bolt patterns are different. But the header will fit, but you will have to port match it beause the ZCs ports are a bit differant. I got lucky and when I bought my motor there was a Mugen header on the engine so I bought it with it.

This swap is fairly easy, as long as your competent when it comes to cars. Only hard part was swaping over the wiring harness and wiring up the distributor. Other than that it was a weekend swap that me and my girlfriend did in my garage.
Reply
Old Jul 19, 2005 | 08:00 AM
  #15  
EG2on14inBRWS's Avatar
Honda-Tech Member
 
Joined: May 2004
Posts: 253
Likes: 0
From: Rosemead, CA, US
Default Re: (Merilious)

The SI tranny fits and works perfectly with the DOHC ZC. when i used to have a CRX i wish i would have gone with a 1.8 tho.... not that much power from a ZC... also never ran a 1/4 mile but 1/8 mile was about 10.3 i believe
Reply
Old Jul 19, 2005 | 09:59 AM
  #16  
ghost_ryder35's Avatar
 
Joined: Nov 2003
Posts: 618
Likes: 0
From: Madison, WI, USA
Default Re: ZC Swap Question Did A Search And Found Nothing (davens)

thanks I wasnt sure if it was 88 and 89 or just 88, guess I was right and wrong.
Reply
Related Topics
Thread
Thread Starter
Forum
Replies
Last Post
hondaex99
Honda CRX / EF Civic (1988 - 1991)
1
Nov 13, 2009 08:12 AM
SexyAzNMami
Honda CRX / EF Civic (1988 - 1991)
3
Jan 31, 2005 12:55 PM
greatgraffini
Honda CRX / EF Civic (1988 - 1991)
4
Dec 24, 2003 09:28 PM
VelocityR
Honda CRX / EF Civic (1988 - 1991)
5
Nov 14, 2003 07:22 AM
MyRex
Honda CRX / EF Civic (1988 - 1991)
3
Jan 6, 2003 10:27 AM




All times are GMT -8. The time now is 07:52 AM.