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Old Jul 18, 2005 | 01:23 PM
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What do you guys think, should I drive like this or get camber kits?
So basically, the black squares are out of spec, and gray are within!

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Old Jul 18, 2005 | 02:04 PM
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looks good to me. if u want better tirewear in the back, try to get it lower, but ur numbers are already very low. i believe slight negative toe in the back helps with highspeed stability.
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Old Jul 18, 2005 | 02:47 PM
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Your looking good up front, dpending on what you plan to do with your car will effect your decision on what to do next. If your not racing and just want even tire wear than I would sugest using the washer trick on the rear because there is more neg camber there than the front , this will cause you to hve more understeer wich is not a desireable trait.

If your going racing auto-x or something I would suggest getting a camber kit for the front and bring out more neg camber in front and leave the back alone,either way you wont want more neg camber in the rear.Not even in straight line performance..
But you gotta do something because how it is now wont be very performance oriented.
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Old Jul 18, 2005 | 03:17 PM
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this car is my daily driver (99 civic si) and I just want it to be good enough so that it doesnt wear out my tires ..

How come they couldnt adjust TOE in the rear..I thought only CAMBER couldnt be adjusted unless you have a camber kit...the adjusted TOE in the front!
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Old Jul 18, 2005 | 05:29 PM
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toe in the rear is determine by that #6 part


btw:where u get that avatar?
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Old Jul 18, 2005 | 07:11 PM
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yeah they left your toe a little weird and overall did a shitty job for you. How low is your drop, my drop is fairly low and I have no rear camber kit and my shop has always been able to dial it to at least -1.5 and I usualy run -2 to -3 up front with 0 toe, I also never had a uneven tire wear issue.
In fact one time they did set me up they way yours is and the car felt undersireable I took it back and they did it over and got it rite. that was american tire in NJ.
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Old Jul 19, 2005 | 04:12 AM
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i am lowered on TEIN s Tech springs, 1.9F and 1.5R
HONDA dealership did this alignment, in Canada though!

From what I can see in that pic, #6 part is fixed and cannot be adjusted???
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Old Jul 19, 2005 | 07:33 AM
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Camber looks good considering that you have no adjustment. The car has been lowered, correct? I might either raise the front up 1/2" or lower the rear 1/2" to get more even negative camber all around. I would have them zero out the toe in the rear and either zero out the front (for best tire wear) or go a little toe out in the front (for best turn in at the expense of a little extra tire wear). The positive toe front and rear is gonna make the car feel nice and stable. You might like it the way it is. There is nothing wrong with your current alignment but it is not as "sporting" (aka unstable) as it could be.

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alan
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Old Jul 19, 2005 | 08:45 AM
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<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote, originally posted by snowman0520 &raquo;</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">toe in the rear is determine by that #6 part


btw:where u get that avatar?</TD></TR></TABLE>

to adjust toe in the rear loosen the bolt on #6 and use a pry bar to move it in its slot. there is a sot that has about a full dgree of travle
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Old Jul 19, 2005 | 11:22 AM
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^^^^ I wonder why those idiots at HONDA couldn't do that
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Old Jul 19, 2005 | 01:12 PM
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i dont know but its so easy
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Old Jul 25, 2005 | 12:38 PM
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that rear negative camber is going cause some mean understeer at the limit.

that 1.1 and 1.6 camber in the front will cause you to pull the left on level ground, but it shouldnt be that bad, it was probably a road crown compensation.
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Old Jul 25, 2005 | 12:44 PM
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<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote, originally posted by Spec R &raquo;</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">that 1.1 and 1.6 camber in the front will cause you to pull the left on level ground, but it shouldnt be that bad, it was probably a road crown compensation.</TD></TR></TABLE>

camber is non adjustable, unless he has some sort aftermarket camber correction kit. alignment shop just did a crappy alignment on his car, IMHO.
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